Nick,

That has not been revealed to me yet, nor do I think their time is near. Things must get much worse that they are now if there is likelihood of all flesh perishing from the earth. John told us enough to be on the watch for them.

Nick,

Hi KW,

No-you claim he was raised to heaven in the body he was buried in.

flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom.

The flesh body is of earth and is corruptible.

One again you are the one that chooses to take the words “flesh and blood” literal while I view them as symbolically representing the body that is enlivened by life…[Read more]

Nick,

You are the one that claimed symbolism in Revelations and I simply agreed with you. Are you going to pick and choose what you call symbolism and what you do not?

Nick,

You are the one who speaks of the old body. The new body is quickened by the Spirit and so the life in blood is of no matter.

Nick,

Hi KW,

When King Jesus appeared before the Father in dan 7 was he clad in his battered old body.?

You are making up the battered body because you do not understand the language.

Nick,

Hi KW,

When King Jesus appeared before the Father in dan 7 was he clad in his battered old body.?

You making up the battered body because you do not understand the language.

Nick,

It is you that do not believe that Jesus’ resurrection is an example of the final resurrection not me.

It is also you that does not believe in the Spirit quickened body not me.

You also believe Jesus’ resurrected body was tattered not me. I believe it has scars that he bears with honor.

Nick,

When Jesus went he was in his flesh and bone body. Why add to Scripture by claiming the heavenly body is different. Do you believe God’s creation was flawed?

Nick,

The book of Revelations is a book of symbolism but you sited it as evidence. What is you explanation for Matthew 27:53 where the the spirit of life entered the body of the saints when Jesus arose and after they bear witness in Jerusalem they are never heard from again.

Nick,

Yes, life for natural man is in the blood but eternal body is the Spirit quickened flesh and bone body.

Adam and Eve has a Spiritual body but sin bound it to corruption. (Romans 8:21)

Nick,

Hi KW,

Flesh contributes nothing.

Flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom.

If your hope is in the flesh it is in futility.

So why are not taking the words of God Spiritually.

Do you not know that Eve is flesh and bone of Adam and that Scripture testifies the soul is in the blood?

Animals have souls.

Nick,

Revelations 11.

And they of the tribes, and peoples, and tongues, and nations, shall see their bodies for three days and a half

And after three days and a half, the spirit of life from God entered into them.

And they stood upon their feet

And they heard a great voice from heaven, saying to them: Come up hither.

And they went up to heaven…

[Read more]

Nick,

I know you have invented a heavenly body in your mind but Scripture speaks of the Spirit quickened mortal body as the heavenly body.

Flesh is saved so that is may be quickened by the Spirit and so released from its bondage to decay.(Romans 8:21)

Even flesh that has been reduced to dust for God does not forget what he has built and he…[Read more]

Nick,

What happens after the time of Great Tribulations?

Matthew 24:29-30Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

29 And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be moved:

30 And then shall appear the…

[Read more]

Nick,

2 Corinthians 5Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

5 For we know, if our earthly house of this habitation be dissolved, that we have a building of God, a house not made with hands, eternal in heaven.

I disagree that Paul taught us that “the old tent is torn down we have a new home awaiting us in the heaven lies”.

Instead he…[Read more]

Nick,

Hi KW,

The old body is not our promised inheritance.

Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom.

I suppose you also believe that believers are supposed to eat Jesus’ actual flesh and drink his actual blood as well.

I on the other hand believe Jesus when he said flesh will be saved by the ending of the days of great tribulation for the…[Read more]

Nick,

Why can’t the Logos be the Logos?

I agree the Spirit is the means the Logos was made flesh.

I mistakenly posted this here but since it seems appropriate to this thread as well I will leave it.

Nick,

Why can’t the Logos be the Logos?

I agree the Spirit is the means the Logos was made flesh.

Nick,

Those who deny the final resurrection deny Jesus rose from the dead (1 Corinthians 15:12-21) and yet you claim Jesus’ resurrection is not an example of the final resurrection.

Nick,

Paul speaks of those that are alive in the Spirit having still to receive a Spirit quickened mortal body.