Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 05 2010,08:33)kerwin & terraricca.   If “all is of God” as scripture plainly says in numerous scripture, then how can ANYTHING be “of Mankind”?   Free will?  Nowhere in scripture is this found.Blessings.PS.  In some scripture God says 'choose', But He (God) has predestined the answer.Choice is found in scripture.  In fact…[Read more]

Choosenone wrote:Quote If you cannot believe all scripture, then your understanding is limited.You fail to understand scripture when you give the wrong definition to “evil”.   I will freely admit that God causes calamity.   Calamity is not more evil that being disciplined by for wrongdoing.  I admit that evil can also be defined as misfor…[Read more]

Quote (banana @ Jan. 05 2010,10:11)kerwinDo you really have an interest in understanding the truth?Your questioning is silly and ridiculous. What do you actually believe?Do you think Satan is an imagination?Do you believe there are created spirit beings, we call angels?Do you believe Jesus is the first, the beginning of God's creation?Or are you…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 05 2010,04:31)hi KWthey are lock up that what it means ,when they will be loose again look at revelation at the end of the 1000 years with there master Satan to do there final appearance before the will be trow in the lake of fire.I believe that they are bound in Revelations at the same time Satan is bound but I will have…[Read more]

George wrote:Quote If you really believe your last sentence, then you haven't got a clue what a ransom is, or what it means, “the penalty for sin is death”.I believe Jesus is still a human being because 1st Timothy 2:5 states that there is one human being Jesus the Anointed One between God and mankind. If you understand that scripture in another…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2010,00:14)hi KW2Pe 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;You need to be careful with scripture since you can make the error of believing what is stated figuratively as actual. I believe the angels that sinned committed…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 04 2010,06:07)Kerwin….. Where doe scripture say GOD (CAN NOT SIN) because He chooses not to does not Mean He can't right? If GOD can do all things and Nothing is impossible to him to do, then why couldn't he sin if He so Chose too. I know He does not sin but that is because he Will not to. IMOIn the 13th verse of the first…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 04 2010,08:56)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 04 2010,09:31)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 04 2010,03:53)Hi T, CO quotes the books written to those in Christ as if they apply to all men who ever lived. Such is the weak foundation of universal salvationism.He has not answered the point of why he believes that God is capable of sinning…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2010,04:53)hi KW to me you can not love someone you don't know.so the only way to know God and the one he has send us is by reading the bible,and it is trough the love of his word that you start to love him ,because his words are going strait to your heart deepest feeling siege.so if you don't have the scriptures to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 02 2010,23:25)Hi KW, Did you learn of God by other means than the seed of the Word of God? Now you know God can you put aside these sacred teachings? Can weak human intellect now become your guide?I am going to say God uses Love to guide me. I seek to love my neighbor as myself and scripture is a tool I use to learn…[Read more]

George wrote:Quote Jesus was not “created” like a man; he was born like man; there is a difference.I do not know what scripture you are using but scripture stated Jesus was conceived in Mary’s womb before he was born.  Man is created or conceived in their mother’s womb and develops thereafter.  To my knowledge we do not have a record of Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 04 2010,03:53)Hi T, CO quotes the books written to those in Christ as if they apply to all men who ever lived. Such is the weak foundation of universal salvationism.He has not answered the point of why he believes that God is capable of sinning despite scripture stating otherwise.   His universal salvation theory is…[Read more]

God chose to teach me from 1 John 3 early this morning and in my lessons I learned some information that seems to apply to this conversation.  In verses 4-6 we are told that no one who sins continues to live in God.  Since this is true then it is obvious that Satan fell from heaven as soon as he sinned.   In verses 7-10 we learn that the Devil, tr…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 04 2010,00:26)Hi G, Are people like yourself, with what they think is personal revelation and understanding, even more reliable sources of truth than scripture?Col2I certainly disagree with Gene's doctrine in whole as it seems he has made intelligence his idol but I fear for you also as it appears you have made the bible…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2010,00:33)hi Genei believe that Christ the first of God creation,and only begotten Son,has been created spirit with a body(not flesh and bones)but like Paul says a heavenly body.and so God the father uses him to create all other things ,this is why he was by is position the only one able to do the sacrifice to save…[Read more]

Quote (peace2all @ Jan. 04 2010,01:19)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2010,05:33)hi Genei believe that Christ the first of God creation,and only begotten Son,has been created spirit with a body(not flesh and bones)but like Paul says a heavenly body.and so God the father uses him to create all other things ,this is why he was by is position the only…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 03 2010,17:20)Hi brothers and Sisters in Heavennet,Wish you all a very happy and joyful New year 2010.Love and peaceAdamThank you and the same wishes to you and all on heaven.net.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 03 2010,06:23)Hi KW, So you decided to believe. Many do but that in itself saves nobody from the wrath of God.Has your name been written yet in the book of life?That is for God to say and not me as it is my duty but to do as he commands and not to render final judgment on myself or others.Belief is what it takes if your…[Read more]

To all,I am currently investigating scripture which states Jesus was created like man.  That scripture is from the letter to the Hebrews and compares man to angel to show why Jesus is not an angel.  This investigation has took me to after Jesus' resurrection when he proved he was not a phantasm.  In that I discovered there is a difference be…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 02 2010,23:25)Hi KW, Did you learn of God by other means than the seed of the Word of God? Now you know God can you put aside these sacred teachings? Can weak human intellect now become your guide?As an adult I did.  As a child I read scripture but failed to truly understand who God truly was despite what I heard.  It w…[Read more]