Quote (banana @ Jan. 07 2010,08:21)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 07 2010,11:46)Quote (banana @ Jan. 06 2010,18:22)kerwin”””I want to point out that according to scripture he is still a human being.”””This is what you said, referring to Jesus, after his resurrection.SHOW ME THE SRIPTURE!!Georg1 Timothy 2:5(NIV) reads:Quote For there is one God and one…[Read more]

Choosenone wrote:Quote Absolute libertarian free will is an absurd concept since it has to have an element of responsibility for one’s action and in order to do so the element of a random decision must be eliminated.  Since doing so is like having your cake and eating it to it just cannot be.In order to have personal responsibility then it must si…[Read more]

Choosenone,You have a long piece there.  God willing, I plan to address it better later.  For now I want to correct a few misunderstandings.When I state free will I do not mean random choice as you defined free will.  A person chooses according to their heart and God created their heart.Mark 7:20-23(NIV) reads:Quote He went on: “What comes out of…[Read more]

Quote (uoflfan @ Jan. 07 2010,03:25)Jesus had God in Him a different way than us he was a spirit before he was a man. But he had all the Power of God while on the earth. When He says when you see Me you see the Father, you are because He did the Will of the Father. He says I do not speak on my own initiative. The works are not his own but the…[Read more]

Quote (banana @ Jan. 06 2010,18:22)kerwin”””I want to point out that according to scripture he is still a human being.”””This is what you said, referring to Jesus, after his resurrection.SHOW ME THE SRIPTURE!!Georg1 Timothy 2:5(NIV) reads:Quote For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,1 Timothy 2:5(KJV)…[Read more]

Quote (uoflfan @ Jan. 06 2010,17:25)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 06 2010,15:47)uofif you believe Christ is God ,then read what i said about the last words of ChristTJesus has the Father in Him that is what makes him God. He was not always Lord and Christ he was made Lord and Christ he was given everything by the Father, but when he says when you see…[Read more]

To all,Is this the type of discussion Paul is referring to in his letter to Timothy when he writes.1 Timothy 6:3-5(NIV) reads:Quote If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 06 2010,12:42)Choosenone wrote:Quote You say  “God offers the gift, in which way he saves us, but we must accept it, in that way we save ourselves”.   It would please me if you can quote the scripture that says this, I doubt you will find one.I already pointed to scripture that states that we are instructed to save o…[Read more]

Terraricca,As a transfer from the thread asking if the KJV is wrong about Luke 10:18 in the forum titled The Bible.In this you advanced the idea that the book of Revelations is being literal when it speaks of Satan knocking a third of the host of heaven from the sky and moving to devour the the students of Jesus.   You also connect that to Satan…[Read more]

Uoflfan, Worshipping Jesus, and all,Psalms 22:(NIV) reads:Quote My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?       Why are you so far from saving me,       so far from the words of my groaning?O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer,       by night, and am not silent.Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One;       you are the praise of I…[Read more]

Choosenone wrote:Quote You say “God offers the gift, in which way he saves us, but we must accept it, in that way we save ourselves”. It would please me if you can quote the scripture that says this, I doubt you will find one.I already pointed to scripture that states that we are instructed to save ourselves. My whole point was to explain how…[Read more]

Choosenone wrote:Quote This clearly states that your salvation is “NOT OF YOU”. I can quote Acts 2:40 where Peter tells his hearers to save themselves by adhering to the message he is teaching.   In 1 Timothy 4:16 Paul instructs Timothy to watch both his life and doctrine to save himself and his hearers.    Do these scriptures contradict the sc…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 05 2010,11:52)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 05 2010,04:31)hi KWthey are lock up that what it means ,when they will be loose again look at revelation at the end of the 1000 years with there master Satan to do there final appearance before the will be trow in the lake of fire.I believe that they are bound in Revelations at the same…[Read more]

Quote (uoflfan @ Jan. 06 2010,06:05)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 05 2010,22:48)Quote (uoflfan @ Jan. 05 2010,17:13)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 05 2010,12:16)UFFyou got it wrong ;this is your way;Myself Myself why have I forsake me' this is your version of Christ last wordsnot scripturalHow is this unscriptural At the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 06 2010,00:33)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 05 2010,06:48)Quote (uoflfan @ Jan. 05 2010,17:13)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 05 2010,12:16)UFFyou got it wrong ;this is your way;Myself Myself why have I forsake me' this is your version of Christ last wordsnot scripturalHow is this unscriptural At the ninth hour Jesus cried out with…[Read more]

Quote (uoflfan @ Jan. 05 2010,17:13)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 05 2010,12:16)UFFyou got it wrong ;this is your way;Myself Myself why have I forsake me' this is your version of Christ last wordsnot scripturalHow is this unscriptural At the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, “ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?” which is translated, “MY GOD, MY…[Read more]

Jude 1:4(KJV) reads:Quote For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.Jude 1:4(NIV) reads:Quote For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly…[Read more]

Perhaps Mr. Descartes was of the world but he did make some good points. It is for the wise to discern what comes from God and what does not.

Choosenone,Do you believe God is all knowing?  Do you believe anything can truly surprise him?  Then let us assume for this scenario that God does not control the actions of human beings.  Even in that case his knowledge of all things he knows what I will choose in each and every circumstance as if my choice were already made.   He uses this kno…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 05 2010,12:41)Hi kerwin.   If you refuse to believe scripture, Gods word, then it is pointless to use your own reasoning to explain Gods ways.  WE can't choose to do Gods will, scripture states that God “is operating ALL in accord of councel of HIS WILL.   Try as you may, Gods will will be done, not yours. (E…[Read more]