Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2010,08:43)Hi KW,”All living bodies have flesh is a statement of fact.”  really? Do you have any scriptural support for this?If it is a fact relating to matters of spiritual things would it not be written somewhere or is logic enough? You seem to base such ideas on your observations from  the visible world but is t…[Read more]

Gene Balthrop and Terraricca,You both have some good points.

Nick Hassan wrote:Quote There must be flesh on a resurrected body?? All living bodies have flesh is a statement of fact.Please give up the indoctrination that you have undergone in false tenets and embrace the truth.  Nick Hassan wrote:Quote When will you stop being a philosopher and commit to the truth of the living Word?Isaiah 1:18(KJV)…[Read more]

Nick Hassan wrote:Quote Don't ask us to read between the lines but show it written if you want us to listen.Do not be afraid to think for Jesus taught you to read between the lines of scripture in order to truly understand what God commands.  That is why he oven stated “he who has ears, let him hear”. Sometimes going by the letter is deadly as i…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2010,11:53)Hi KW, No I am asking you to shun additions to scripture. Such actions are the basis for gnosticism. If there is no SPIRITUAL FLESH in scripture then we have no sound basis for discussion. Just because you have not heard of living bodies that are not of flesh is irrelevant.We do not know what we will be…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2010,10:29)Hi KW, Before we can discuss SPIRITUAL FLESH we need to establish that it exists otherwise we are wasting time.  Where is it in scripture?You are asking me to go by the letter of the law and not the spirit.  I assure you scripture is not civil law.  I also asure you the word “flesh” which is English was no…[Read more]

Nick Hassan wrote:Quote Overwhelming?you have not shown one scripture that speaks of SPIRITUAL FLESH as there are none.Flesh is flesh.Where is it written that Spiritual flesh equals natural flesh?  It sounds like you are speculating.If you were to look at the Greek word translated “natural” in 1 Corinthians 15:44, 46 you will find that it can mean…[Read more]

Nick Hassan wrote:Quote I believe when Jesus was lifted up into the sky his body was transformed into a new imperishable heavenly body -the new over the old.I understand that is your speculation based on a misunderstanding of part of 1 Corinthians 15:50.  Scripture does not explicitly make a statement one way or another but as I pointed out the…[Read more]

Nick Hassan wrote:Quote Thomas put his hand in that wound.God promised his body would not corrupt but why should it heal in 3 days?The same God who brings the dead to life can heal them in an instant instead of keeping them alive bearing a grievous wound.Nick Hassan wrote:Quote A righteous sea? You go beyond Gnostic.Not in the context I meant it.…[Read more]

Nick Hassan wrote:Quote Did you expect his resurrected natural body would have been healed?If he had a natural body it would have had to have been healed as he was stabbed in the side by a spear which caused blood and water to gush from his natural body after his death. John 19:34.  He was not recorded as still bleeding.  In short your belief on t…[Read more]

Nick Hassan wrote:Quote So you imagine heaven to be filled with beings that need regular feeding of earthly food and all the requirements associated with such mortal earthly bodies? I have no idea though I do know that Adam and Eve ate food before they sinned and at that time their flesh was immortal.   I do know that angels can eat if they…[Read more]

Nick Hassan wrote:Quote Do you really think angels are always of human type flesh or are they given such a garb when serving God on earth?If I told you then it would be mere speculation on my part.  I will point out that there appear to be different types of angels since the cherubim appear different  other angels and that difference is evident i…[Read more]

Nick Hassan wrote:Quote Flesh is of the creation from the dust of earth.Is it not written that there will be a new earth?Nick Hassan wrote:Quote God and His angels are not of earth or flesh.It is written than God is spirit while it is also written that the angels had flesh when visiting Lot as Lot was able to touch them.I do not believe God has…[Read more]

Nick Hassan wrote:Quote You have not answered whether the torn physical body of dust is all you hope for when Jesus returns?I beg your pardon but I did answer it.  I stated that it is up to God what he chooses to do and what he chooses is righteous.  Nick Hassan wrote:Quote Do your really value logic above the work of the Spirit in revealing t…[Read more]

Nick Hassan wrote:Quote The new spiritual body is not of the dust of the condemned old earth …That is not what is written though it could be true.

Terrarica,I can merely speculate on the nature of angels based on a few scriptures that tell of them.   About the spiritual body I know little but by definition a body has flesh.   All I know about the spiritual flesh is that it is immortal.  Like you I assume that mankind will have flesh just like the angels do.  It is possible that the ang…[Read more]

Nick Hassan wrote:Quote It is a delusion to think application of weak human logic will extract truth from what is written.Logic is neither human nor weak but rather it is a tool that can be used by humans, angels, or anyone else for that matter.   I admit an argument can be weak or it can be strong depending on the factors involved in it.If your…[Read more]

Nick Hassan wrote:Quote Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom but you would oppose this?You take away from scripture as 1 Corinthians 15:50 also states “neither doth corruption inherit incorruption” so yes Paul speaks true as corruptible flesh and blood does not inherit the kingdom of heaven.  It is the incorruptible flesh and bone that will…[Read more]

Nick Hassan wrote:Quote Logic is insufficient.That is a foolish statement as it makes it seem as if you believe God is a God of confusion.The definition I am using for logic is “the science of correct reasoning; science which describes relationships among propositions in terms of implication, contradiction, contrariety, conversion, etc.”  Th…[Read more]

Nick Hassan wrote:Quote Hi KW,He did more than eat with them.He showed them the many holes in it.Is that the sort of body you hope to inherit?We hope for a new IMPERISHABLE one.I mentioned that as evidence Jesus had an imperishable body since if it was a mortal body he would have still been dead.  An immortal body can not even killed by massive…[Read more]