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    kerwin replied to the topic Inference in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago

    Nick Hassan wrote:Quote They are yet alive to God as they were anointed of the living Spirit. Where is that explicitly written in scripture?Perhaps instead it is implied.

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    Nick Hassan,I now realize you are in self-denial.   That is always tricky to deal with.   Science does not deal with the spirit, whether it is the spirit of righteousness or not.   Since you are unwilling to answer those straightforward questions I will attempt to deal with the situation in another way.In the book of Law we are told:Numbers 14…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Inference in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2010,14:17)Hi, Inference has always divided men from truth.Do you know what inference is?It is comming to an conclusion using well grounded reasoning based on true premises from the document. For example Jesus reached the conclusion that there is a resurection from the dead because the Lord is a God of several “dead”…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2010,14:00)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2010,16:23)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2010,08:10)Hi KW, Jesus expressed spiritual truths that those of the Spirit understand. No human logic or implication is required.Jesus used human logic to express those truths.  You are lying if you state otherwise.Hi KW, Strong words towards…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2010,14:03)Hi KW, Calling folks liars normally draws a tile but towards me? Perhaps t8 may object but I guess your anger at disagreement is the cause.Calm yourself and go back to what is written.Now stop dodging and answer my questions instead of uttering nonsense.  I believe you are abusing scripture as a way of…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2010,13:43)Hi KW, Such a natural birth is of your imagination and bears no relationship to Scripture.you still prefer to defend your additions ?I other words you once again prove yourself to be a liar.   Stop sinning and obey God.You already told me that one recieves a spirit before they exit their mother's womb. Are…[Read more]

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    Marty,I merely at this time am makeing the point that God is not always explicit in what he teaches. He expects us to understand him none the less. The way we learn is to submit ourselves to him as we seek him in other ways as well.In this way I hope to remove obstacles from the path of others as they seek God.

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    Nick Hassan wrote:Quote Men everywhere offer to add what they have deduced or found implied in scripture.Are their deductions correct?  Jesus’ is and so are those of his servants.Nick Hassan wrote:Quote Personal interpretation is not advised but scripture should be allowed to support itself.Interpretation that is from the corrupt nature of man is…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2010,08:10)Hi KW, Jesus expressed spiritual truths that those of the Spirit understand. No human logic or implication is required.Jesus used human logic to express those truths. You are lying if you state otherwise.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2010,08:08)Hi KW, You are not the one to offer new extrabiblical truth are you? The Spirit does not speak of His own initiative.There are lots of new and old things but does God refer to an old spirit or only you?I am only offering what I have been told about the physical birth.  I happen to trust the source.  Are y…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2010,01:06)Hi KW, Please put aside your traditional preconceptions and show matters from the Word.So where is this impure human spirit in scripture?Where is OLD SPIRITIt is not my preconceived notion that “Wisdom shouts in the street” but it is your preconceived notion that there is not truth outside of scripture.  …[Read more]

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    Nick Hassan,How are you addressing my point that Jesus taught a doctrine that was implied and explicit in the scripture he cited? Is Jesus or is Jesus not an example of what we are to do?Marty,What do you think of Jesus' method of teaching and whether we should follow in his footsteps and teach/follow teachings that are merely implied and not…[Read more]

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    Yes you do make dogmatic statements apart from scriptural backing.Should you? You sound just like a pharisee or a lawyer.  The truth is the truth no matter where it is found or do you not believe scripture.Proverbs 1:20(NASB) reads:Quote Wisdom shouts in the street,         She lifts her voice in the square; I do not understand your point in igno…[Read more]

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    Terraricca,That is true of Paul and the others whom wrote scriptures but it does not mean it is true about you.Consider instead what Peter states:2 Peter 3:14-18(NKJV) reads:Quote Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2010,00:25)Hi KW, There is no AGAIN in the verse and so your theory about a previous rebirth of water and the Spirit falls flat.The rest of your argument has no foundation.The flesh is the old man, the tent that will be folded up and put aside, and houses 'sin in the flesh'.The new man is not of the flesh of adam but…[Read more]

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    To all,In constructing my answer to Gene I was led in thought to 1 Corinthians 12:14 and thinking of that thought I tried to determine what part of the body each individual served even those who do not worship God but God used to his good purposes anyways.1 Corinthians 12:14-15(NIV) reads:Quote Now the body is not made up of one part but of many.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 23 2010,23:51)Kerwin……..I agree with you on that so was Cyrus an arm of GOD. As well as all the prophets and Jesus also and All His saints are also.peace and love……………..geneI see the prophets as more of God's mouthpieces or public relations staff, not that he cared what public thinks of him.  Though Jesus…[Read more]

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    To all,God has put my mind to searching out this matter and I conclude the arm of the Lord is the arm of God which manifests in different ways.   This would be equivalent to the arm of the law which is power or might of the law.   The Holy Spirit and Jesus are both manifestation of the might of God but so was Nebuchadnezzar in his time.

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    I tend to believe there is no “formula”. Jesus was merely instucting his student to baptise new students in his authority. His authority is not seperate that the father's. I have to study more about the authority of the Holy Spirit to say what the situation is there but from the common rendering of Matthew 28:19 it would apear that its…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,12:40)Hi KW, These are parallel verses.But you do not accept what they show?You concluded from the evidence or premises which means you infered.I am not disagreeing that your inference is correct though it is perhaps presumptuous as the evidence you present is limited.

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