Worshipping Jesus wrote:Quote Where do you find this in scripture? The fallen nature is described by Paul as a sinful nature or the Old man!The words is Hebrews 4:15 are “tempted  in every way, just as we are” and we know how we are tempted because James explicitly teaches us:James 1:14(NIV) reads:Quote but each one is tempted when, by his own…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 10 2010,22:46)Quote (kerwin @ April 10 2010,00:53)Jesus is a human being an was tempted by evil just like every other human being is and has been since the time Eve and Adam were tossed out of Paradise.  Even though he was fully tempted as we are he did not sin but instead lived by the spirit of righteousness and…[Read more]

MikeBoll64 wrote:Quote This shows that angels, which are spirit beings, can take on the form of a man.May I ask where in that scripture you see evidence the two angels mentioned were ever insubstantial beings.  It is not there.  I merely pointed out what was written and not any conjectures based on what is not.Also that it was Jesus who p…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 10 2010,17:17)Hi Kerwin,Thanks for clearing that up. I thought you meant the whole post.Just for further clarity, can you quote the part that you are disputingThanks.Just this statement of yours.Quote but do our good works walking as best we can in the perfect ways of Christ's exampleIt teaches human effort which Paul…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 08 2010,20:23)Quote (kerwin @ April 08 2010,21:02)The Thinker & MikeBolt,Romans 8:17 does not appear to be the best scripture to solve a debate as experts in Greek disagree on the exact wording.   Arguing over it will get you nowhere.  Why don't you look elsewhere for a solution to your disagreement if there is one.For e…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 10 2010,14:36)Hi kerwin,I am flumoxed as to your rebuff.Is it wrong to advise caution to those who are claiming the winner's trophy while the race is still being run?I mentioned the only error I found in your post.   Those you are advising to be cautious are acting like fools and if they do not change their ways a fool's…[Read more]

JustAskin,You might want to reconsider stating “walking as best we can in the perfect ways of Christ's example ” as it speaks of human effort which scripture states is doomed to failure.   We should instead walk according to God's best and that is done through faith and the spirit of righteousnes.That is why Jesus taught what is impossible for…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ April 10 2010,13:13)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 18 2008,22:39)Hi GM, God gives grace to those who seek it, through Jesus.Not so, He gives grace to whom He will.Eph.2:10… For His achievement are we, being created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God makes ready beforehand, that we should be walking in them.Ephesians was…[Read more]

Jesus is a human being an was tempted by evil just like every other human being is and has been since the time Eve and Adam were tossed out of Paradise.  Even though he was fully tempted as we are he did not sin but instead lived by the spirit of righteousness and resisted Satan's schemes.Now that he has been made King of everything in heaven and…[Read more]

MikeBoll64,Genesis 19:1-3(NIV) reads:Quote The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant's house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 09 2010,23:12)Kerwin………Jesus plainly dealt with what bodies we will have when resurrected a body just like the body he had and has, when accused of being a Ghost or Spirit , after he came through the door unto the Apostles he replied he was NOT a SPIRIT because he said a Spirit does not Have FLESH AND BONE, as HE…[Read more]

JustAskin,I appreciate your questions but consider that the Hebrews never taught that man became corrupt in the flesh, not the spirit”.   You can see that clearly by doing a search of “flesh” in the Old Testament of Scripture.  Rather, God told his people to get a new spirit and a new heart, Ezekiel 36:26.Consider this if all we needed to be resc…[Read more]

MikeBoll64,There is 1 Timothy 2:5 that explicitly states Jesus  is a man and you need to measure your logical conclusions against that teaching to see if they test true.  Considering that I will address the points you brought up.In Romans 15:50-51 you point out that Paul taught that “flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God” but that…[Read more]

Terraricca wrote:Quote Paul did not say that Christ still is a man ,he said that the mediator was the man who came as Jesus Christ .That is not how the English language is language is structured.   The English clearly tells us clearly that Jesus the Anointed is the man who mediates between mankind and God.  There is no “was” or “who came as” e…[Read more]

Terraricca,I find it hard to believe anyone can believe that after reading 1 Timothy 2:5 which explicitly calls Jesus is a man at the present time since he is presently serving as the mediator between mankind and God.This is ignoring the fact that nowhere in scripture is it written that Jesus was transformed into another type of being.What…[Read more]

The Thinker & MikeBolt,Romans 8:17 does not appear to be the best scripture to solve a debate as experts in Greek disagree on the exact wording.   Arguing over it will get you nowhere.  Why don't you look elsewhere for a solution to your disagreement if there is one.For example I agree with The Thinker that Jesus is still a human being since 1 T…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 08 2010,11:30)Quote (princess of the king @ April 07 2010,22:48)Some place a gender on their god. Which in turn causes belief by secular standards, man is the head, women is the next, so on and so forth, so their god must be male, as the triads do also, their deity is male gender. Which is not surprising, since the early…[Read more]

The thinker:Quote How you infer that I am saying that Jesus is not the way to God is beyond me.Jesus is the way we will be the image of God which can be said to inherit God. As you pointed out this may not be what you in addressing Mikeboll meant by “inherit God”.

The Thinker wrote:Quote The Greek says that we will be heirs together “of Christ.” It does not say that we will be joint heirs with Christ but heirs together of Christ meaning that we will be conformed to His image. Note the phrase, %2That certainly sounds like you are stating that Jesus is not the way to God. We already inherited the Anointed…[Read more]

terraricca,You might want to reconsider how you are choosing your words as all good things come from God and an education is a good thing so should not be condemned.  It is true that it does not give you the holy spirit to be educated in the seen world and how God designed it.  I am not even sure how useful such knowledge will be in the next w…[Read more]