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    Nick,Is sounds like you are attempting to use God's word to contract him as we are instructed to ask, seek, and knock.I assume that is not your intent so please be careful how you choose your words.

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    kerwin replied to the topic Mysticism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 4 months ago

    Nick,Are you asking a question or bringing an accusation?

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    Nick, I am constantly seeking more knowledge of God and if he will me it a greater portion of godly wisdom.I strive not to add or subtract from God's word as my purposes is to understand and stand in awe of it.May God bless me so my stiving is not in vain.

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    kerwin replied to the topic Mysticism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 4 months ago

    Nick It is true that God does not need the aid of the words of man but it is also obvious that he chooses to use them at times as scripture is written in those words.I certainly agree that the spirit reveals as that is what I have been claimin in this tonight and have claimed in other places at other times.

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    kerwin replied to the topic Mysticism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2010,11:01)Hi KW, Know also the heart is shown by a man's words.What is spiritual should not be tainted by man's definitionsI have been declaring that one's heart is shown by one's words. Why do you believe a definition of the word used to describe the works of the spirit taint the spirit as it is merely a way to…[Read more]

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    Nick Hassan,I assume you are pointing out that the definition I attributed to “holy” was not the definition you meant. That is fine. It sounds like you mean “treat it as worthy of respect or awe inspired by the dignity, wisdom, dedication, or talent of a person”. If that is so then I do treat is as worthy of awer inspired by how wise the words…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Mysticism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2010,10:53)Hi KW, So ignorance and righteousness and corruption are by your judgement? Then who are you in God's eyes?It is written:Proverbs 20:11(NIV) reads:Quote Even a child is known by his actions, by whether his conduct is pure and right.I already stated I have no idea who anyone even myself is in God's eye as God…[Read more]

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    Nick,If by “holy” you mean “worthy of complete devotion as one perfect in goodness and righteousness” then the answer is “no”. They are created it is the Creater I choose to worship. To worship scripture is idolitry and it is my hope to escape from the chains of Satan.I seek God and his righteousness through faith and put my trust in him to…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Mysticism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2010,23:01)Hi KW, calling the work of God's Spirit mysticism is unwise. Yet you tell others they are in darkness?It is easy to see who is in darkness when their deeds show their corruption or ignorance.  It is more difficult to tell the truly righteous from those who are corrupt but dressed in righteousness.  I have n…[Read more]

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    Adam,I still do not believe you understand me.  Jesus declared that we cannot come to him except if God leads us.  I hold that statement to be true.  Why do you think anyone this realm or of the spiritual realm can obstruct God.  It cannot be done unless God desires and if he does then he has a good purpose for it.  Scripture tells me that the…[Read more]

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    Adam,Why should I accuse another of evil without evidence to back up the accusation?   The only evidence I have is that potentially false scriptures have entered the bible and scripture may has been deleted.   Some were most likely done by corrupt individuals who I certainly would not refer to as pious and others were done by ignorant men who e…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 4 months ago

    Adam,You are correct that many that call themselves Christian have chosen to fellow false teachings and some of those erronously teach that Jesus is God. Jesus and his servants warned that this would happen in scripture. It is sad that it has but be careful not to blame all those who call themselves Christian for what some have done. It…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 4 months ago

    Adam,You are correct that many that call themselves Christian have chosen to fellow false teachings and some of those erronously teach that Jesus is God. Jesus and his servants warned that this would happen in scripture. It is sad that it has but be careful not to blame all those who call themselves Christian for what some have done. It…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Mysticism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 4 months ago

    Nick Hassan,If you do not understand the difference between the hidden things spoken of about Babylon the Whore and those spoken of in Psalms 78:2 then you are truly in darkness.Personally, I think you know the difference but are currently blinded by the teachings of men.What is God speaking of in Psalms 78:2 and what is Revelations 17:5?Can you…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Mysticism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 4 months ago

    Mysticism has gotten a bad name as there are many forms of it and some of those are in disrepute.  The mystycism in New Testiment scripture is as Adam's source points out virturally the same as Jewish mysticism.  This would change over time but then the both groups of religions would depart from the true church as well.  In modern times we have be…[Read more]

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    Adam,Are you attempting to claim that someone inserted writing into the gospels that was not actually part of them. I am not going to disagree with that claim ads is true in some cases. I happen to know that some of what is written in our modern versions is questionable and that issue has been addressed in various threads on this board. I…[Read more]

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    Quote (gollamudi @ June 03 2010,16:01)Quote (kerwin @ June 03 2010,20:47)Our debate is over the correct interpretation of scriptures and thus is a tool used with God's direction for me and others to gain understanding.That is the paradox of every one who is debating in this forum but no one is correct why so?We are lost and looking for a way…[Read more]

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    Adam,Our debate is over the correct interpretation of scriptures and thus is a tool used with God's direction for me and others to gain understanding.Here is a quote from the entry for Mysticism as Wikipedia which Nick linked to that I find true of scripture.Wikepedia entry for Mysticism reads:Quote The mystic interprets the world through a…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Mysticism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 4 months ago

    Adam,Thank you.She does apear to know what she speaks of though her use of tech terms makes her writing difficult to understand. I have not read all of it but only scaned the initial pages.

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    Adam,Do you know what a liberal scollar is?  Another word is progressive or one biased toward change.  That makes them unreliable witnesses since their desire is to alter God's word.  The other witness is a Roman Catholic.  Have you ever checked what that sect's view of scripture is?  They have had various beliefs but limited innerancy is prob…[Read more]

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