Pierre,I agree there are many that claim God stated something when God did not state it but that is no excuse to “throw the baby out with the dirty bathwater”.I provided an example from Luke 8:19-21 on the previous page.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2010,10:30)Hi KW, He spoke truth in spiritual terms. Men infer.Jesus used a human language to express spiritual truth and also expected his hearers to understand those truths he merely inferred.notice I did not write “spiritual” a secound time but merely infered it by the context of what I stated and the word “truths”…[Read more]

One example of inference is found in Luke 8:19-21. Jesus answers the someone who let him know his mother and brothers were visiting him that his mother and brothers by stating that his mothers and brothers are those who hear God's word and put it into action.  The logical conclusion based on the evidence from that passage is that those who are…[Read more]

I wrote what I did because there are those that seem to be attacking the messenger when they do not like what there itching ears hear. Instead of taking your emotions out on the messenger test the spirit both of what they have to say and what you believe.

Do not forget that your enemy is erroneous doctrine even if it is your own and let God deal with those who reject the true gospel of the Anointed One.

Pierre,You posted me on March 26 and for some reason I did not respond at that time.  My apologies.I believe your concern that when interpreting scriptures men who infer what it means can read into scripture false revelations which are not from God but rather from the ruler of this world.That does not make seeking that God does not infer but only…[Read more]

Nick Hassan,My argument is it is sinful to condemn the use of logic as a sin because using logic is not an act of the sinful nature.  You do not seem to be claiming logic is evil in what you just wrote.Logic as a tool is glorified (extolled) only when it is used correctly to understand God's and his Word.   It is glorified (extolled) only b…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2010,04:03)Hi, Logic has led to all the foolish theology we see hopefully presented here. Every man's logic is his own and his alone. 'thy word is truth”I have to disagree as in my opinion false revelations have led to most if not all of the foolish theology we see presented on these forums and elsewhere.I will concede…[Read more]

Pierre,I am only pointing out that logic is a tool that God provides us with in order to seek knowledge of him.  It is not the only tool and it is not one to be used without being guided by the inspiration of God.  Revelations are also a tool God gives us but they are not the only tool as scripture gives us demonstrations of the use of logic by J…[Read more]

JustAskin wrote:Quote Kerwin,You cannot test the word of God with logic.KJ and 'TT', trinitarian tricks, has shown how 'Logic' and 'Premises' can easily fool the unwary…therefore they must not be trusted.Quote Premise A: Do you believe there is the Father?Premise B: Do you believe there is the Son?Premise C: Do you believe there is the Holy…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ June 05 2010,17:08)Kerwin,You cannot test the word of God with logic.KJ and 'TT', trinitarian tricks, has shown how 'Logic' and 'Premises' can easily fool the unwary…therefore they must not be trusted.Quote Premise A: Do you believe there is the Father?Premise B: Do you believe there is the Son?Premise C: Do you believe there…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2010,16:25)Hi KW, The reasoning of men led to the death of Jesus.Surely it is better for one man to die…Paul is known to have reasoned in synagoges and marketplaces in order to spread the word of God, Acts 17:17 and 18:4.His reasoning was based on godly principles wheile those who crucified Jesus based theirs on the…[Read more]

Nick,You obviously you do not know what logic is.It is reaching conlusions based on true premises and valid reasoning.The Bereans used logic in that they tested scripture to see if the conclusion came up to be that what Paul stated was true.Premise Zero: Scripture is Always true.Premise One: Scripture states APremise Two: Paul states A.Conlusion:…[Read more]

Nick,The Berean's are known to have tested the spirit of what Paul taught using logic as they examined scripture to see if what Paul said agreed with it.

Nick,If you are stating that a mind driven by the sinful nature is useless for understanding the things of God then I agree! It is only when your mind is under the direction of God that you percieve that which is of God.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2010,14:38)Hi KW,. Every man is the judge of his own 'logic” Not a strong or unified foundation.Hardly as some men judge their logic while carried along by the Spirit of God. That is why God instructs us to test the spirits of what we hear and believe.

God did not create me to be brainless and it would help me none at all to search scripture if I were. I am intelligent enough to know that what you just stated is definitely not in scripture.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2010,13:33)Hi GM, We should be much more concerned about the error introduced by weak human logicFlawed logic is not really logic.

Adam,It is with great sadness that I admit that there will be those that twist the scripture because of either their ignorance or corruption but we cannot let their actions destroy our faith.It is my concern that you have done just that. That is a deadly path to follow.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2010,13:30)Hi KW,Spiritual things must be discerned spiritually.This is true but I have no idea if your stance is spiritual or not. The answer to my question would help me understand your stance.