Dennison,I do not go by any of the books of Enoch we have today nor do the Jews whose beliefs I spoke of since there tenet is based on Old Testiment scripture.  Many of the beliefs expressed by Jesus and his followers are Jewish beliefs from the one true tradition.  If you claim to follow his teachings then your beliefs also will come from that t…[Read more]

Adam,I agree that I am not going to support the false claim about what John the Baptist declared made by an antagonist when creating a straw man he could then knock down.I have already pointed out that John the baptist was probably speaking of a guilt or sin offering and even then he was generalizing.It certainly did not take a rocket scientist to…[Read more]

Dennison,I was addressing certain Jewish beliefs linked to the Old Testament interpretation. You can disagree with those beliefs if you chose. That is on you.The belief is that the seven eyes mentioned in Zachariah 4:10 are held to be Seven Archangels. In some Eastern orthodox Christian sects they are said to be Michael, Gabriel, Raphael,…[Read more]

Adam,Instead of facing sincere questions you would rather immerse yourself in the teachings of those looking for faults in the doctrine of the Anointed One because of their unbelief.Does scripture teach that the Passover lamb is sacrificed for sin.  I doubt it very much and so that whole post was waste of both my and your time.Paul is the only…[Read more]

Adam,Why do you avoid speaking about witness testimony?  Are you set on attacking Scripture for no good reason?  If you wish to understand instead of finding fault with then shouldn't you investigate the issue more thoughly than taking the word of a known foe?  Why would you trust such an obviously biased source?  Are you willing to answer any of…[Read more]

Adam,What evidence do you have that no direct eye witness narrated the events?You have none.I can say in some cases that the writers of a gospel did not witness the event themselves but rather gave account of what they are told by others.  The birth of Jesus is an example of this.  You can easilly tell that Mary is the one whose account Luke b…[Read more]

Adam,It is known that different eye witnesses of the same event will give different accounts of that event. I see no reason to quibble over details and differences in points of view.If your take away from the temple incident is that Jesus opposed the authorities or people of Jerusalem then you missed the whole message of that scripture even…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ June 16 2010,12:53)If so how will you harmonise those contradictions on determining the day of Passover for Jesus to be killed comparing both accounts I mean synoptics and John?The Jews have different traditions which would account for the so called differences you think you see.  Jesus and his disciples followed the older…[Read more]

Adam,That is certainly an interesting scripture.  Since Jesus and his disciples celebrated Passover a day earlier than the Pharisites it would seem they are probably an ancestor movement to the Karsite Jews as well as Christians as they are not Samaritans.  It is known the Karsite Jews and Samaritans use a different version of the Jewish C…[Read more]

Ed,I will say that Nick hit this one on the head.

Quote (Ed J @ June 16 2010,10:17)Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2010,09:52)I was reading about Hebrew beliefs last night and came across mention of the Seven Eyes of God which I understand are Arch Angels.Zachariah 4:10 is the scripture they use as support.I have also heard God seven perspectives and seven attributes of the heart.I have only looked into…[Read more]

Pierre,God is all knowing and so Satan cannot do anything without God being aware of it.  God is also all powerful so he can prevent Satan from doing any action.   In the case of Job God shielded Job and so prevented Satan from oppressing him and Satan came forward to get permission to beset Job with troubles.  In that case Satan who is the ac…[Read more]

I don't know and there may not be any but they are known to come up at later dates so I figured I better cover them just in case.

I was reading about Hebrew beliefs last night and came across mention of the Seven Eyes of God which I understand are Arch Angels.Zachariah 4:10 is the scripture they use as support.I have also heard God seven perspectives and seven attributes of the heart.I have only looked into it a little.

Gene,I want to familiarize you with my reasoning.  I am using Satan's temptation of Jesus as a type that of Satan's role of the tempter in action.  I then put Satan in the situation when I know someone was tempted to do evil, i.e. the Pharaoh.  Now you wonder how I interpreted Scripture declaring that God hardened the Pharaoh's heart to Satan te…[Read more]

Adam,For an Orthodox Jew your source made a basic error about the Jewish day which goes from dusk the night before to dusk to the following day.   This means Jesus sacrificed himself on the same day that he had the last supper.  According to the book of Law the Passover Feast is to be held on the evening or between the evenings of the Fourteenth d…[Read more]

Adam,Your interpretation skills are lacking.  If you read the Law then you would know that the Jewish Day goes from dusk to dusk and so just before Passover would be the same time the Passover Lamb was sacrificed.  This would mean that the the lamb was already sacrificed at that time as it is sacrificed before Passover.You are trying to argue t…[Read more]

Adam,I use the NIV which does state passover week.  If you look at the context of John you would know that Jesus ate the Passover Feast on the previous day which is a Thursday.  Since in order to eat the Passover feast one must eat the lamb John was obviously not speaking of the Prepreation day for that which is probably the same day one eats t…[Read more]

Adam,Several Points1) Have you tested the facts?Does John make the point that Jesus is the Passover Lamb.  I did a search for lamb and could not find one place where anyone made that point except Paul in 1 Corinthians 5:7.  So your source is assuming that John was referring to the passover lamb and not to a guilt offering which in some cases r…[Read more]

Nice to hear your account.