Whatistrue,A contract is an agreement between two or more parties.  It does not require anything more than that.  In the case of slavery the slave is agreeing to the contract by choosing not to rebel even if it means to free themselves they must die.  There is some that have chosen death rather than slavery.  Others have compromised with that sta…[Read more]

Tim,So according to you to employ another human being is wrong. I say that because that is all owning is as both put a fellow human beings into service but the terms are different. If that is your point of view then it is an extreme one.Perhaps you object to the terms of service. Those terms of service vary from society to society as each…[Read more]

Choseone,You seemed to have misunderstood me as I did not state that God did not create Satan.  My point is that God did not and does not need or desire an opponent and thus that is not the reason he created Satan. That leads up to your second point which is that God is supreme, which was the reason I gave for not believing that God needed or…[Read more]

Marty,I agree with almost everything you stated in your first paragraph as I actually believe I previously stated it myself.   The exception is when you state that Jesus is the only one engendered in his mother’s womb by the Spirit of God.  The Greek word translated “conceived “can be translated to several English words but I feel “engend…[Read more]

chosenone,I doubt that God created Satan, the king of demons, because God wanted an opponent. Satan serves God after all though in his heart he rebels. Since you chose to speculate on why God chose to do something I myself will point out that Satan tests the hearts of men with his tempting and acts of oppression. That means that Satan separates…[Read more]

Adam,I have to disagree with you as Satan tempted various raiders to sin and thus raid Job. He also tempted David to take a census of the people. He is the king of demons.

Francais,The word “suffer” is probably a better word to give the idea of what you meant and not “tolerate”. In our U.S. culture we tend to use “tolerate” to mean “respect what we disagree with” though it can mean “to endure” as you intend.

WhatIsTrue,I did not read the first point but assumed the thread title addressed the topic of the thread and the prohibition of this forum from including doctrines from scripture holds.   It appears I am mistaken.To address that post I will point out you misinterpreted the Exodus 21:20 which is regulating the practice of slavery.  When i…[Read more]

To whomever it may concern,I mentioned mystic interpretation and in applying those you must also apply the idea that moderation is the best policy as one can create fantasies.Often, if not always, the mystic interpretations of scripture are true about both items addressed. They are never false.

Tim,I believe you are correct that scripture accepts, perhaps suffers, the existence of slavery but I would go further and point out that it attemts to regulate it to reduce the abuses that occur under it.As I stated earlier I cannot see as slavery itself is so wrong as the abuses of others that seemed to epidemic under it.I am still of the…[Read more]

I assume that someone made an arrogant and ignorant comment about Scripture that has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. The individual may assume that slavery is wrong as if it is not instead the lack of love for your neighbor that is evil. They then judged scripture based on their own lack of knowledge believing they were superior to…[Read more]

To whomever it may concern,This thread asks an interesting question. Offhand I would state no as it is merely an employment contract that is canceled by the death of the employed.The problem with slavery is it creates an environment where the slave owner or those he permits can abuse the slave without being held accountable.  The basic idea is…[Read more]

To all,I mentioned mystic interpretations of scripture in an earlier post and God led me to one that of these interpretations that God does through a writer of scripture.In this example the chief priests and the Pharisees called a meeting in the Sanhedrin to discuss what to do about Jesus after he performed the miracle of raising Lazarus from the…[Read more]

Marty,You make a statement that is either true or untrue depending on what you mean by “extraordinary” human being.   You state that Jesus is an “extraordinary” human being because he is the “Only Begotten Son of the Living God”.   If you mean “extraordinary” in the same sense that any President of the U.S. would be considered to be “extraordinar…[Read more]

Mike,Your point is irrelevant since it does not change the fact that Jesus is a human being just like Adam, Cain, and we are.  I can not argue that any human being is exactly like another but as far as being tempted we are all tempted by evil no matter how we were conceived.You may though be trying to make another point and that is that a human…[Read more]

T8.What you state sounds reasonable. I attempt to use logical reasoning when posting as I believe it is better for learning. Sadly I am most likely less than perfect in applying the principles which makes it beneficial when others point out my errors though I reserve the power to judge whether I believe they are errors.I have observed enough…[Read more]

Mike,How was Adam the same as us despite the fact he does not have a human father?  What about Eve?  What about a cloned female human?In other words does the method of a human beings conception change the fact that they are a “normal” human being?According to me it does not but it seem you are trying to argue it does.  I am simply providing ex…[Read more]

T8,Is it only the lack of answers to direct questions that you find objectionable?If this is so then perhaps we should clearly indicate that a question is a direct question so that the person it is dirrected to knows that we would like an answer to it.  Have you also considered there are questions that are not best to answer directly such as a…[Read more]

T8,How so you decide who is blindly selective?The one who determines that may well have their own biases and so their judgment would be less than objective.

I am bounching this for t8. Please read the first few posts in this thread where I attempt to among other things describe the new creation as it is defined in the New Testiment.