Irene,You are perhaps answering the question posed by this thread when you state your belief that Jesus gave up much when he choose to become a human being.  What did he give up?He is presently King of everything on earth and in heaven and from what you seem to imply has always been.  He showed quite a bit of authority even as a human being.  …[Read more]

To all,I misunderstood what Gene said and have no need to be extraneous and reword what I already did as the first post was correctly understood.

dirtyknections,I believe the word translated “slave” should more appropriately be translated “servant” as our culture looks at slaves differently than the Greeks of that time did.  One after all does not get to choose who they are slaves to.I have no idea of what the JW's believe on the issue but I do know that the general movement has had…[Read more]

Mikeangel,I was not intentionally implying any criticism or rebuke in what I wrote. I was simply answering what I perceived your question to be according to what I myself have learned for God so far. I believe I do have a tendency of over answering a question and so may done that in my post. If so then please forgive my extraneousness.I agree…[Read more]

Martain,In Romans 3:13 we are told that those that either have not entered or do live according to the covenant of the spirit of righteousness are spoken of in scripture with the words:Romans 3:13(NIV) reads:Quote Their throats are open graves;      their tongues practice deceit.”These words are true as they are corrupt or bias blinds them to th…[Read more]

To all,It is irrelevant if Martin knows Greek.  The question is if William Tyndale knew Greek when he chose the translation he did.  Martin gave his reasons for preferring Tyndale's translation over John Wycliffe's in this matter.   In conclusion if you prefer Wycliffe's then state why instead of making an irrelevant point.  I am interested in hea…[Read more]

Mikeangel,God tests our hearts in order to strengthen and purify our character much like a smith working with metal.  Is the smilth wrong to heat and hammer metal?  If the metal is inferior and gives under the effort to improve it is it the Smith's fault?

Irene,Please share what you bible states and include what version of scripture you choose to use. Thank you!

T8,Jesus did not choose to speak clearly, most likely for reasons he tells the disciples elsewhere.   I can see how you reach the conclusions you do if you assume that Jesus was answering the question asked by his skeptics in verse 57.  The problem that arises from that conclusion is that it contradicts the point that Jesus made in verse 56.  …[Read more]

Rokkaman,I accept your apologies and I am glad you and I chose to take the path that ironed out our misunderstandings while sticking to what is right.  Such is the path that Jesus taught us.

JustAskin,I placed my reasoning for all to see and I continue to stand by it.  I do agree that all those that live by the spirit of righteousness, excepting God himself, are sons of God.  That includes Jesus.   My argument was that Jesus became a son when he obtained the spirit of God.  I had not thought though that he may not have been the Son…[Read more]

JustAskin,I placed my reasoning for all to see and I continue to stand by it.  I do agree that all those that live by the spirit of righteousness, excepting God himself, are sons of God.  That includes Jesus.   My argument was that Jesus became a son when he obtained the spirit of God.  I had not thought though that he may not have been the Son…[Read more]

To all,Be careful not to read too much into a scripture.   For instance God is stating in Psalm 6-7 that he displays himself as Jesus’ Father when he places Jesus on his throne but the context of the scripture shows Jesus was his Son before that date.  In the case of Jesus’ transfiguration on a mountain recorded in Luke 9:35 and the case of his b…[Read more]

To all,Be careful not to read too much into a scripture.   For instance God is stating in Psalm 6-7 that he displays himself as Jesus’ Father when he places Jesus on his throne but the context of the scripture shows Jesus was his Son before that date.  In the case of Jesus’ transfiguration on a mountain recorded in Luke 9:35 and the case of his b…[Read more]

Choosenone,I do not disagree with what you said but there is much you left unsaid including your assumptions about what you said.God is after all God and thus we can nothing without him for the watchman watches in vain unless the Lord is with him.There is also one God so no one exists that aid him in anything.

Rokkaman,God acted out of love not only for all of mankind but also for Isaac and Abraham.  I mentioned his other characteristics to show that God is the only one qualified to make such a call.  This is important for us to understand even all the many things that go on in the world that we consider harmful serves God's purpose to rescue each and e…[Read more]

Shimmer,I applaud your answer.

Shimmer,I applaud your answer.

Rokkaman,I have come to believe this is a touchy subject for you and so I appreciate that you have chosen to cover it more toughly with me instead of leaving me hanging with your earlier,   I will start our declaring that I was telling the truth that God condemned Isaac at his father’s hands to further his righteous plans for all of creation bu…[Read more]

Worshipping Jesus,For the most part I believe the points we disagree are not points you addressed in your post.  There is one exception to that general statement that I spotted and that is that I believe God stated “”Thou art my Son, This day I have begotten you”.” when Jesus was immersed at the Jordon to reconfirm his commitment to serve God…[Read more]