Ed,

Scripture never bans the laity from having multiple wives.  It is only the leadership that is banned from having multiple wives.  Islam is divided on the issue with some frowning on it as they believe it leads to oppression because the male responsibilities increase as the number of wives increase.  It is banned is some Islamic countries su…[Read more]

Nick,

Be careful as you  are getting into an argument over the meaning of words when you debate whether or not God is a person.   The word person is open to interpretation because it has multiple definitions.  One of those definition is a rational being.   Some even define it as a soulish being which would also include animals.  That last one ha…[Read more]

Danny Dabbs,

Galatians 2:20Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

In these words Paul separates his human self from the Spirit-Word of God…[Read more]

Danny,

Do you believe what is written?

Hebrews 11:17Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

Isaac was not Abraham’s only begotten son as Abraham was also the father of Ismael.

Galatians 4:20-23Authorized…

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miia,

Babylon captured Israel in 603BC (from that time the daily sacrifice was taken away)

The daily sacrifice was not taken away in 603 BC Ed. How could it be in 603 BC if Jesus speaks about it in Matthew 24:15 as a future event. The daily sacrifice was taken away after the 70 AD desolation.

Please acknowledge this first mistake, and…

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Ed,

Islam has been in Europe for a long time. There is most likely a growth as people are living Islamic held lands that are having troubles and moving to the area with declining populations of Secularists and Atheists. It looks to me like God is giving them the land for his own reasons. One of those seem to be that they are better at obeying…[Read more]

Danny,

I differ some with Nick but Scripture teaches us there is only one Spirit in the unity of the Spirit and that Spirit is the Spirit of God. Scripture teaches us that God gave his own Spirit to Jesus the Son of David and so is also called the Spirit of Jesus. It is also given to believers and so technically but even the apostles are not…[Read more]

Danny Dabbs,

There is two passage in 1 John and 2 John are similar.

One says he came in the flesh and the other that will be coming in the flesh.

Danny Dabbs,

There is not many Gnostics on the board though some teaching are influenced by that doctrine.

There is not any here that deny a Jesus came in the flesh though there is more than one Jesus spoken of on this board.

It is really is not a debate since everyone on this board I know of admits a Christ has come and that Christ is a human being.

Danny,

Hi T8,

I agree. Jesus the anointed one has come in the flesh!

No more, no less!

Peace to you!

Danny

No kidding as he is a human being.

Nick,

Hi KW,

The Word which spoke through Jesus Christ had glory with God in the beginning.

The Word even was God before being with God.

That is true but I do not think Jesus was addressing that subject with his words in John about his glory existing with God in beginning. 2 Timothy 1:9 makes the point that the glory of the saints also…[Read more]

t8,

And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.

Here we can see that he indeed has history with the Father. The longest history of all in fact.

No, not according to 2 Timothy 1:9 as it says “…but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before…[Read more]

t8,

It is like saying something to the tune of this. Have the same attitude as Ghandi. Although he was the leader of India he was humble.

That is my point except that the title Christ is the equivalent of saying “leader of …” and instead of just one word to describe the attitude Paul used most of a sentence. “who, being in the form of God,…[Read more]

terrarica,

I am not questioning whether Jesus surpassed John but rather if you believe he did because that is what John is claiming and the reason he gave was because the Christ has more authority than him.

Terrarica,

No, I did not add words. I did point out that you are using the wrong definition for the word before in John 1:30 and that you are using the wrong point of view for Philippians 2:5-7 and John 1:14.

If I add any words in my explanation then it is done for clarification and they are not really needed for the passage to mean what I am…[Read more]

Terrarica,

kerwin

if you don’t believe the little you can understand how do you going to understand the things that are yet deeper in spirit ? you cannot ,

That is your answer when I point out that not only can I understand the language of Philippians 2:5-7, John 1:14, and John 1:30 but that you too can understand.

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Terrarica,

kerwin

if you don’t believe the little you can understand how do you going to understand the things that are yet deeper in spirit ? you cannot ,

That is your answer when I point out that I can understand the language of Philippians 2:5-7, John 1:14, and John 1:30 but that you too can understand.

The unsaid words I hear in your r…[Read more]

t8,

Did it cross your mind Nick and Kerwin that Jesus Christ is the Word that was with God and later became flesh.

It is a given that Jesus Christ embodies the word that comes out of the mouth of God.

The bottom line is that I do not believe the word mentioned in John 1:1 is a being no more than I believe Wisdom is in Proverbs. It is instead a…[Read more]

t8,

I am not offended about Jesus’ words “I am {the Christ} before Abraham was made {the father of many nations} .

I obviously have a different viewpoint of them since I believe the fact Jesus was conceived in Mary prohibits him preexisting just like I am convinced the fact he is human prohibits him from being God or anything but human.

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t8,

No problem here. But he existed in the form of God and emptied himself. You have a problem with that it seems.

We all agree that Jesus was a man, so it is not even worth debating that.

No, I have not problem with that since humanity was created in the form of God. They fell from those heights when they ate of the fruit of the tree of…[Read more]