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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum kerwin 15 years, 7 months ago

    JBK,My point is we are not qualified to judge your father either for innocence or for guilt as that is God's job and to those whom he assignes it.  God is just and he knows the real person your father is and will judge him accordingly.  I believe you had good times with your father so cherish those memories that God has given you and seek honor y…[Read more]

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    Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 18 2011,21:01)Question to all….. Is it possible to possess the spirit of God by virtue of obedience and repentence without the physical emersion in water…instead having a baptism of desire….The immersion is water is for repentence from ones sins. You can say the words but if you do not do the the associate actions…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic The soul in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 7 months ago

    Pierre,I do not believe you understand me correctly.  There is only one holy spirit.  This is the one you speak of slipping away.  On the other hand there are many spirits that fall short of the glory of God.   All the spirit I have so far mentioned are guides or teachers.If a person lives by an arogant spirit then their behavior is arogant.   S…[Read more]

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    Pierre,Jesus taught Nicodemus, a teacher of the Jews.John 3: 5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’Jesus was merely repea…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum kerwin 15 years, 7 months ago

    Mikeangel,I live in this world, as does JBL, and like his father mine too fell short of the glory of God.   My father chose the slow way of committing suicide by the abuse of alcohol and tobacco.    He finally managed to succeed by throat cancer.   I had to admit to myself that he brought his death on himself for his own selfish reasons.  Th…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic The soul in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 7 months ago

    Irene,You wrote:Quote Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. What I have been wondering why did it only say Soul and Body? Why not Spirit? I believe if we didn't have a Spirit, we could not understand with Gods Holly Spirit…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic The soul in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2011,07:28)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2011,22:41)T8,The body is saved by being transformed from mortal to immortal.Hi Kerwin,We seem to agree for the most part on this subject.  But I believe the body suffers decay and returns to the dust from which it came.There is no scripture I'm aware of that says the body that we die…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic The soul in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 7 months ago

    Pierre,The Spirit is like the wind and a breath is the wind comming in or out of your body.  The breah of life would be the wind that gives the body life.   That would be the spiritual part of the human being and not the fact they breath.   That is why the prophet petitioned God to return the boy's soul to his body when the boy died.  The spi…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum kerwin 15 years, 7 months ago

    Princess,Jesus did not commit suicide as you inadvertently imply.   He instead sacrificed himself that those who believe would receive and live according to the spirit of righteousness.   Self sacrifice is considered a noble action.Suicide is not noble even if the person who is doing so falls for the devil’s line that they are doing it for oth…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic The soul in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 7 months ago

    Wispring,Soul is used to describe the whole self in some instances of scripture just like flesh is used to do the same in other instances of Scripture.Soul is the essential self which is part of the spiritual self which is called the breath of God in the account of Adam's creation.God is Spirit and his soul is part of the Spirit he is.

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    kerwin replied to the topic The soul in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 7 months ago

    T8,The body is saved by being transformed from mortal to immortal.It is not part of the essential self though I believe it is part of the self.  My main support of that is that it took both a spiritual self and a bodilly self for Adam to be created a living soul.You are correct that I did not mention the body.  I felt that apropriate as the e…[Read more]

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    Pierre,Scripture never says that water baptism is just for Jews and rather gives an example of Gentiles being immersed in water when Conelius and his household are imersed in water.Jesus asked the Pharisees if John's baptism came from God or from man and they were afraid to answer.  Are you really prepared to answer him as you have written?John…[Read more]

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    Pierre,I understand God calls his people to do onto others as they would have done on to themselves.  I also understand they we are to serve others before ourselves.These commands are not In agreement with the nature of man which is of this world.They are in agreement with the devine nature  that is given by the Holy Spirit, in its role as c…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum kerwin 15 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (mikeangel @ Mar. 16 2011,05:45)Quote (Kila @ Mar. 16 2011,08:08)Quote (jbl @ Mar. 13 2011,18:50)Hello,My name is Jordan (aged 21) and as of a matter of a few days ago I have lost my father to suicide. He struggled his entire life with drug and alcohol abuse which left him withdrawn and chronically depressed. I loved him and miss him and…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic The soul in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 7 months ago

    Wispring,Inserting consciousness/operating mind in place of soul(s) does not fit the whole context of scripture as it is the whole being that is being saved and not just part.  Try “essential self” instead

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    Pierre,I agree that faith without deeds is dead and therefore to obey the teaching of Jesus you must be a believer before being immersed in water in order to recieve the Holy Spirit.  A believer will obey all of Jesus' teachings including being immersed in water because Jesus is their ruler.

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    Ed J.This is a scripture which states an item about the relationship between God and the Holy Spirit.Ephesians 2:22(NIC c.2011)And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.I do believe the Holy Spirit is a part of God.

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    Pierre,By posses I mean the Holy Spirit controls ones actions when a person willingly subjects their own will to that of God. In doing so God loves through that individual and so, when fully mature, they love as God loves. Scriptures that tell us that are:John 1720 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me t…[Read more]

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    You wrote:Quote Exactly! Cornelius and his house received the Holy Spirit BEFORE being baptized which indicates that baptism was no longer a requirement.So according to you since the Holy Spirit in its role as the distributer of talents was received without the believer obeying the teaching to immerse themselves in water it follows that water is…[Read more]

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    Pierre,Noah was saved from the Great Flood because he believed God and that faith bore the fruit of obedience to the word of God.

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