To those concerned,So if I understand correctly, Paul is stating that he was received as a messenger of God, even Jesus the Anointed.Quote Galatians 4:14 (Young's Literal Translation) 14and my trial that in my flesh ye did not despise nor reject, but as a messenger of God ye did receive me — as Christ Jesus;

Ted,It is true that all human beings, except Jesus, have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God but we must be careful not to misuse that fact to justify our sins instead of repenting of them.

Paladin,Could you please critique my last post to Mike as far as what I understand about John 1:14. Thank you!

Mike Boll,You wrote:Quote I didn't say that.    Jesus took on sinful flesh because the children were also of sinful flesh.  So yes, Jesus was made as a human being.  He was different from the start though, because he didn't have a human father like we all do.The same would be true of a human clone. Still the key point I was getting at is that acc…[Read more]

To all,I am convinced the Spirit is not God and God is not the Spirit though the Spirit is to God as our spirit is to us.Each is treated as a seperate element of the Unity of the Spirit and Scripture states that God lives in us through his Spirit.It is my belief that Jesus' spirit is a reflection of God's spirit, otherwise known as God's glory and…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 15 2011,11:36)KerwinQuote Since the prophets spoke the word of God because they were carried allong by the Holy Spirit it would seem clear that the Spirit of God is the foremost messenger of God.Ex 19:3 Then Moses went up to God, and the LORD called to him from the mountain and saidEx 20:1 And God spoke all these words:Ex…[Read more]

T8,There are at least three books of Enoch.

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 16 2011,09:40)Quote (kerwin @ April 14 2011,09:37)Dennison,A god is a child of God.  You are misunderstanding the definition of the word "god".   It is the same definition as when God calls those to who the law was given gods.  Why do you think he called them gods?   Angels are called sons of God in the book of Job…[Read more]

Worshipping Jesus,It was my opinion that you errored due to oversight.  Mike appears to have done the same.  It is a common error for me as I know from playing chess and other games.  I get focussed on one part of the field and miss the action on the rest of the board.  This often results in me loosing.That is why I believe we should treat oth…[Read more]

Ted,Scripture states that after Satan tempted Jesus in the desert he went away to wait for a more opotune time.All those senarios are times he regards as more opotune and many of them are caused by lack of faith in God.   I also noticed where one case sounds like the sin of another though it could also be caused by cirumstances.  Even then faith c…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 15 2011,10:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 15 2011,07:20)Quote (kerwin @ April 14 2011,19:11)Mike,Your doctrine is that a Spirit being embodied itself in flesh.So either change your own doctrine or acknowledge that it can be the Spirit instead of a spirit being because that is the only difference between what you are stating and…[Read more]

Quote (betweenchristendomandjws @ April 15 2011,08:59)Quote (terraricca @ April 15 2011,03:47)Quote (betweenchristendomandjws @ April 15 2011,00:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 14 2011,09:15)Quote (betweenchristendomandjws @ April 13 2011,00:23)Hmm as a JW this is a really strong argument for Jesus being the highest angel possible or Michael the…[Read more]

Gene,Jesus was not making a law but he was providing an example.   Phanisizing about sinning is sinning in your heart, whatever the sin may be.  Do you believe a man can love someone and also fantasize about hating them?   Isn't the very idea an absurdity.  It is the case of having a white washed exterior and an interior full of corruption.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 15 2011,07:20)Quote (kerwin @ April 14 2011,19:11)Mike,Your doctrine is that a Spirit being embodied itself in flesh.So either change your own doctrine or acknowledge that it can be the Spirit instead of a spirit being because that is the only difference between what you are stating and what I am at this point.Hi…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 15 2011,05:54)Quote (kerwin @ April 14 2011,02:42)Now the Logos being the Spirit of Christ, “the archetypal and governing idea of creation”, embodied itself in Jesus the mortal according to John 1:14 and the embodied Holy Spirit which had come from God lived among us.Kerwin,Let me stop you right there, because Gene and…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2011,20:23)Wow People!My poll is not calling Mike a liar. This poll is to see what others think about Mikes answers to the questions. The evidence is there.I find it amazing that all you guys are fussing at me about this honest poll yet no one said anything about Mikes poll accusing me of being a liar.Mike is…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2011,20:30)Quote (kerwin @ April 13 2011,23:43)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 13 2011,23:33)Hi AllRemember you will not be incriminating yourself by voting because the votes are anonymous, no one knows but you how you vote. All I want is an honest vote!WJI do not see voting on this matter as being moral as it is…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ April 14 2011,14:54)This all reminds me of the classic series of fights between the con artist formerly known as Saul of Tarsus and Simon Peter.  There was Peter all confused about what religion he was trying to convert gentiles to, while Saul was unabashedly trying to start his own cult by telling people to follow him in the same…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ April 14 2011,19:24)No.  Put it in context.  Read the mindless sexist drivel that precedes it in 1 Peter 3:1-7.  The author is not fit even to be read.  Is this the inspired word of a god?  That nasty god is not fit to be given a single thought, let alone bowed down to.StuartIt is interesting that you believe you are in the posi…[Read more]

Mike,You wrote a lot.  I will respond by writing what I have discovered so far using Philo’s beliefs about the Logos.   I have already posted some based on information Dennison supplied earlier.  Now the Logos being the Spirit of Christ, “the archetypal and governing idea of creation”, embodied itself in Jesus the mortal according to John 1:14 and…[Read more]