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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 1 month ago

    t8,

    You do realize the “emptying” and “in” are opposing concepts as you empty what is in the vessel.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 1 month ago

    T8,

    Jeremiah 1:5Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    5
    Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee;
    and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee,
    and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

    When was Jeremiah literally ordained the prophet unto the nations?

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    Danny,

    That is true if you do not think of it out of context of Scripture for it is also written:

    2 Corinthians 11:4Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might…

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    t8,

    Some places in England are already rather big-brother like. They have a lot less thoughts about privacy that the U.S. does though the governments manage to find ways around most objections when they want. It is hard to tell because governments are in the mind to claim they respect privacy when they pick and what and how they actually…[Read more]

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    Danny Dabbs,

    May it be so!

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    Gene,

    To all….THERE IS “ONLY” ONE TRUE ROCK and that is GOD THE FATHER ALONE.

    So are you claiming the ten commandments was not written on a true rock?

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 1 month ago

    t8,

    There is no context that teaches us who or what Revelation 19 is speaking of. Jewish and Early Christians are strange to our ears as they are know to represent idea as beings. Thus the wisdom of God becomes the daughter or wife of God and the word that comes from the mouth of God because the chief of angels. So technically it could be…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 1 month ago

    t8,

    Ed,

    Jesus was formed in his mother’s womb. Isn’t that created?

    Kerwin. How about coming in the flesh. If he existed in the form of God, then emptied himself, then being born through Mary is coming in the flesh. Created has the implication that you have existed for the first time.

    Paul teaches us all humans are clothed in flesh in 2 Cor…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 1 month ago

    t8,

    Ed,

    Jesus was formed in his mother’s womb. Isn’t that created?

    Kerwin. How about coming in the flesh. If he existed in the form of God, then emptied himself, then being born through Mary is coming in the flesh. Created has the implication that you have existed for the first time.

    Paul teaches us all humans are clothed in flesh in 2 Cor…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 1 month ago

    Nick,

    Please stop the foolishness. You know you are wrong but chose to hold on to some unnatural teaching. As it is written 5 words which are correctly understood are better that a multitude of those so stop implying the multiple is better.

    Mr Google is useful to gain understanding of the words Scripture is written in but as you well know that…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 1 month ago

    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    It only takes small steps away from the path of revelation to fall into the pit of deception.

    It is arrogance to apply to God human words He did not give us.

    Which is why I warn you away from arguments about words.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 1 month ago

    Ed,

    I hear what you say.

    English, Hebrew, Koine Greek, and just about if not every human language is vague and so can cause miscommunication even when all other things are right. Some of the controversies over the meaning of Scripture are caused by it. For example there is John 1:1 where humans argue over the meaning of the word theos and the…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 1 month ago

    Nick,

    Sentient.

    Has God ever applied this term to Himself ?

    Of course he did.

    Why do you ask? Do you think he is a dumb beast?

    After all it mean having the ability to reason as in “Let us reason together” as in Isaiah 1:18.

    Be wise, not foolish!

     

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 1 month ago

    Nick,

    Sentient.

    Has God ever applied this term to Himself ?

    Of course he did.

    Why do you ask do you think he is a dumb beast?

    After all it mean having the ability to reason as in “Let us reason together” as in Isaiah 1:18.

    Be wise, not foolish!

     

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 1 month ago

    Nick,

    Your words are human words for they are English, a language you do not even perfectly understand.

    Do you think English is an unholy language that is unable to convey the truth of God.  Do you prefer Latin or perhaps Hebrew?

    Perhaps the tongue of angels is best but who here understands it?

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 1 month ago

    Ed,

    1st) Nick seems to be claiming that only words used in scripture are divine despite the fact he also uses other words.

    That is why I continue to point out that it is the meaning that is divine and not the word.

    2nd) The definition you gave is only one possible definition of the word person there are others.  Few think of God as human when…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 1 month ago

    Nick,

    Yes, despite your denial, God is sentient.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 1 month ago

    AndrewAD,

    Thank you!

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 1 month ago

    AndrewAD,

    Dear Kerwin,you do make some good points above to which I have no argument;as a former unitarian myself.But it’s the gospel of St John,Hebrews and other verses which lead to that belief of Jesus preexistence.I do think St Paul believed in his preexistence but as a most high angel/spirit and not as the most high God.

    John and Paul d…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    I do not know what you mean by human terms as such words are not in Scripture.

    I do not that human words are used to express Godly truths because Scripture is written in human words using human terms.

    Unless you have the gift of understanding the tongues of angels you would not understand it if it was written in that tongue.

    The letter…[Read more]

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