Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 30 2011,02:06)Quote (Lightenup @ July 30 2011,06:03)Wow Roo,You purposely took a hit for the kingdom of God, I'm impressed although I didn't read your thread.  You have me curious God bless, KathiKathi,The scale was 1-10 and was not based on one's Christological position but on his ability to present his position…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 30 2011,01:03)Wow Roo,You purposely took a hit for the kingdom of God, I'm impressed although I didn't read your thread.  You have me curious God bless, KathiKatthi,Do you remember Jesus or any other person of God in scripture calling anyone stupid. That is what it sounds like KJ states he did. If he did then he did not…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2011,11:15)Kerwin13 Hear the end of the matter, the sun: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole man. 14 For God will bring every work into judgment, with everything that has been overlooked, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.the two resurrection are of two group of people ,1) first…[Read more]

Pierre,These are the scriptures from both the NIV and KJV that seem important to the issue of the two resurrections.Quote Luke 14 King James Version (KJV)14And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.Quote Luke 14 New International Version (NIV)14 and you will be…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 29 2011,21:51)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 30 2011,00:12)Kerwin……….Good Post brother. peace and love……………………………….geneAmen to this.  Good post.Love in Christ,MartyMarty and Gene,I believe God guides me in what I post but neverless it is good to test my words. Thank God for giving us wisdom to…[Read more]

Pierre,I explain my understanding because God instructs his people to seek understanding and I assume those that seek him do just that.To properly understand scripture you need to think like the people it was originally addressed to as well as one who thinks in spiritual ways.We of this time have been taught to think in other ways.The point I was…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 29 2011,11:30)Kerwini think the first scripture i quote  and the second one is from NIVPierrePierre,Thank you! If God so wills I plan on looking into this topic some more.

Quote (terraricca @ July 29 2011,10:51)KerwinQuote Pierre,What version of Scripture are you using? I use many;INV ,NLT,KJV,NASB,LXX,DARBY,NWT,those I use for Internet but I have many more that I read into,PierrePierre,I was referring to the one that you used for the scriptures you quoted prieviously as it will aid me in my understanding. Thank…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ July 28 2011,18:31)Quote (kerwin @ July 28 2011,15:14)Quote (princess @ July 28 2011,06:39)the Hindoo bible, in which it was found was compiled fourteen hundred years before Christ, and written at a still earlier period. And we find the same doctrine very explicitly taught in the ancient Brahmin, Persian, Chaldean, Chinese,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2011,09:38)Wow, I should just walk away.  You seem to take every single thing I say the wrong way Princess.I said NOTHING about the spirituality of children.  I was speaking of a three year old's grasp of language.  For at about that age, they are only beginning to know the difference between a “HE” and a “THEY”, and wh…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,17:58)Quote (kerwin @ July 29 2011,01:39)Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,10:54)Quote (kerwin @ July 20 2011,23:07)Quote John 5:29 (King James Version) 29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.There are two…[Read more]

Irene,Quote Wisdom is like Patience , Hope, Love and Peace inside a person.  God always had wisdom.  So no way was wisdom brought forth and could be beside God…Proverbs is talking about Jesus IMOGod both possesses Wisdom in him and created Wisdom with his actions, words, and thoughts.  The intent of his Word is Wisdom.    Since all else was crea…[Read more]

To all.Have you heard of the hypothosis that Wisdom is the firstborn daughter of the old creation.It is in part based on Proverns 8:22-27 and the fact Wisdom(chokmah) is a feminime noun and it has been around since at least 4th or 5th Century B.C. according to what I have heard.Was Jesus born before Wisdom?

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,10:54)Quote (kerwin @ July 20 2011,23:07)Quote John 5:29 (King James Version) 29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.There are two resurrections spoken in this scripture.One is the resurrection of life.The…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,10:10)Quote (kerwin @ July 28 2011,22:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2011,08:48)Quote (942767 @ July 27 2011,14:30)Show me the scripture which states that he is the first creature that God created.  The scripture states that he is the “firstborn over all creation”.  And so, where does it say that he was the first c…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ July 28 2011,06:39)the Hindoo bible, in which it was found was compiled fourteen hundred years before Christ, and written at a still earlier period. And we find the same doctrine very explicitly taught in the ancient Brahmin, Persian, Chaldean, Chinese, Mexican and Grecian systems—all much older than Christianity.O you three L…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,07:26)Quote (kerwin @ July 28 2011,18:31)Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,05:12)KerwinRev 20:5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2011,08:48)Quote (942767 @ July 27 2011,14:30)Show me the scripture which states that he is the first creature that God created.  The scripture states that he is the “firstborn over all creation”.  And so, where does it say that he was the first creature that God created?No Marty,It does NOT say “firstborn OVER all c…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 28 2011,06:30)Quote (kerwin @ July 28 2011,11:19)Quote (942767 @ July 27 2011,21:04)Quote (kerwin @ July 27 2011,13:36)To all,The Spirit of God came before Jesus and without the Spirit Jesus could do nothing.It is the Spirit of God and not Jesus that is recorded as being present at the old creation.Hi Kerwin:The Spirit of God…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,05:12)KerwinRev 20:5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign…[Read more]