Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 22 2011,05:28)KerwinQuote The seat of character that comes from above is one that is righteous and holy as is God’s.  Jesus constantly has such a seat of character. what is the ? the seat of character that comes from above PierrePierre,It is the part of a human being from his character is exercised when his character bea…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 22 2011,05:47)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 21 2011,13:59)Mike,Quote So now the Holy Spirit IS the Son of Man?     Oh brother! It seems you have missed some of what is taught as it is written:Quote 1 Corinthians 2:11King James Version (KJV) 11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even s…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 22 2011,08:40)But the debate has always been about whether or not there even WAS an “inner person” who pre-existed the flesh.Do you now agree there was?Mike,There is a debate whether the inner person preexists the conception of the human body. I am of the opinion it does not but I have not looked into the matter nor do I…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 22 2011,08:51)kerwinQuote I will say where the spirit came Jesus walks by is from is that counts and not where the body that housed his inner person at that time. are you writhing English ? I have no idea what you are saying PierrePierre,I used lousy grammar and sentence structure.I hope this is an improvement.It is where…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 22 2011,08:54)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 22 2011,18:02)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 22 2011,05:31)Kerwinwhat do you think this means? “The Spirit gives life;Pierre,It means that if you do as is written in:Quote Galatians 5King James Version (KJV)16This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. The…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 21 2011,20:25)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 21 2011,01:07)Mike,You should read more of what he taught to those disciples.Quote John 6New International Version (NIV)61 Aware that his disciples were grumbling about this, Jesus said to them, “Does this offend you? 62 Then what if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before! 6…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 22 2011,05:31)Kerwinwhat do you think this means? “The Spirit gives life;Pierre,It means that if you do as is written in:Quote Galatians 5King James Version (KJV)16This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. Then you will live.

Mike,Quote So now the Holy Spirit IS the Son of Man?     Oh brother! It seems you have missed some of what is taught as it is written:Quote 1 Corinthians 2:11King James Version (KJV) 11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.Alternately t…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Jesus is not a plant, Kerwin.  That is easily conferred from other Scripture that calls him a human being instead.   I see that you also read inferred teachings in scriptures.Quote I find it very telling that you recognize that the root of a plant comes BEFORE the trunk, and branch of a plant comes AFTER the trunk. It is “an und…[Read more]

MikeQuote The Jews:  What are you talking about, dude?    You are not even 50 years old!  How in the world could YOU, have seen Abraham?That is not the what Jesus said but rather words of those of whom Jesus had previously stated:Quote John 8 King James Version (KJV)43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.The poi…[Read more]

Irene,Quote Kerwin, no the is not what I am saying. Then you are not aware of how your words sound to another.Quote He was not a mediator then. The words “by him all things consist” in Colossians1:17 describe his role of mediator. Quote These verses have nothing to do with the sacrifice of Jesus. To my ears they do because “For Jesus Christ were…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 21 2011,06:47)I can answer that Pierre.  Kerwin would most likely have said:John 6:42“Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, ‘I came down from heaven’?”They can only come to him if God leads them.Mike,You should read more of what he taught to those disciples.Quote Quote this was the real Christ that came down from heaven. the flesh is the boxI also believe the soul which is made of spirit comes from heaven for it is written that God breathed the soul into Adam and the soul which is made of spirit matter gave his body life.Quote the question is not the flesh but the soul what is spirit I was not…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 21 2011,06:48)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 20 2011,17:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2011,21:24)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 19 2011,22:52)He then goes on to speak of heavenly things by saying “No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.”I ask you to judge for yourself if Jesus was speaking of hi…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2011,21:24)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 19 2011,22:52)He then goes on to speak of heavenly things by saying “No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.”I ask you to judge for yourself if Jesus was speaking of his physical body or the Holy Spirit within him as a heavenly thing.So now t…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2011,17:00)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 15 2011,08:58)Mike,Compare Revelations 19:13 to Ephesians 6:17 where the Spirit is literally stated to be the Word,Hi Kerwin,Religious 'brainwashing' (also called indoctrination) is hard to undo. (See Colossians 2:21-22)Consider how Mike is still stuck on John 1:1 in the N.W.T rendered as 'a…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 20 2011,02:28)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 19 2011,22:14)Quote We agree that Colossians 1:18 is speaking of the new creation.But I wish to direct your attention to verse 17 and ask you if you believe that all the old creation holds together in Christ Jesus especially since the purpose of the new covenant, according to verse 18, is…[Read more]

Pierre,Quote I do not believe this; Never the less it is true because human languages need to be somewhat generic in order to fit many circumstances.  In addition, not all we mean is in what we write or say since we tend to assume our readers understand the basic concept we discuss.  Quote But letters and words are limited to what the expression o…[Read more]

Pierre,Quote you mean this;Ro 1:3 regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David,? INV                  Ro 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;KJVare those two scriptures not saying the same thing ?I am going to let you determine that for your own self…[Read more]

Mike:We are addressing:Quote 1 Timothy 2 King James Version (KJV)5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. There are four elements to this sentence in the KJV though some translations break it off at three, which I find more in line with the…[Read more]