Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 06 2011,07:57)Kerwin!  Interesting indeed, you believe that Isaac is the only begotten Son, yet you ignore that Jesus also is……Jhn 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.  He is The Word of God, and He will come b…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 06 2011,01:52)kerwinQuote I am not sure what you mean by “we are not the begotten Sons of God”.  But since Paladin has addressed one possibility when he pointed out that scripture declares that those that are born of spirit are the begotten sons of God as well as being adopted I will address the idea that you are spea…[Read more]

Pierre,Quote ,Isaac is the only begotten son of Abraham according to God promise, I agree for it is written:Quote Galatians 4 King James Version (KJV)22For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Qu…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 05 2011,17:33)Kerwin Ismael was not  the Son that God had promised  Abraham and Sarah…Isaac on the other hand is the only Son they produced…..ALSO we are not the begotten Sons of God, we are the Adopted Sons of God….Jesus is the only begotten of the Father….The Word of God…. you seem to say it is the Word of God in R…[Read more]

Mike,Quote That's just nonsense, Kerwin.  A human being does not “divide” or diminish when he brings forth a child.  Nor did God diminish each time He brought forth other beings.It is God’s power being divided is what I speak of.  There is but one God that is worthy to be worshiped because he cannot do evil or even be tempted by evil even thou…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 04 2011,13:20)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2011,12:12)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 03 2011,20:39)Irene – IF THIS IS TRUE -John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 03 2011,21:50)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 03 2011,09:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 04 2011,02:20)Hi Gene,What you are SAYING, and what you can scripturally PROVE seem to be two different things.  Mike…………..Your argument is with Peter and Jesus not me. Yu simply do not believe he was Just a SON of MAN , Just like we…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 03 2011,10:52)Mike!  No matter what you say, Kerwin, Gene and Marty will never understand that Jesus is not just a mere man…. To even imply this makes me wonder if they have Gods Son in mind…. How can they even consider that He is a mere man…. HE IS GODS SON…. While we are the Adopted Sons of God…. Not the begotten…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 02 2011,12:10)KerwinQuote Do you agree that the universe was created by the litteral word of God?I do not know what is the litteral word of Godbecause God his a spirit ,so could you change your wording ?or tell me what is your understanding of THE WORD OF GOD ?PierrePierre,The litteral Word of God is to God as the litteral…[Read more]

Mike.I see no reason to address whether or not angels have bodies composed of spirit at this time. Quote WHAT?!?  Created from nothing?  What does that have to do with my point? I have no desire to spend my time explaining things I believe you already know but I guess that is necessary in this case.1) You have stated you believe Jesus is an a…[Read more]

Gene,Quote Mike you should not chide the TRINITARIANS they believe Just like you do,  in fact their teachings is where you originally got your SEPARATIST doctrine formI am of the oppinion that it was the other way as the book  of Hebrews addresses a false doctrine that taught that Jesus Anointed is an angel with these words among others.Quote Hebre…[Read more]

Mike,Quote I had asked you before what your driving force was for wanting Jesus to be nothing more than human, but I don't recall reading your answer. My answer is to obey the instruction Jesus gave to us in Matthew 6:33.   In order to find God’s righteousness and his kingdom I must pursue it by faith from first to last.  That pursuit begins by…[Read more]

Pierre,Quote Before I answer your questionHow long would you like to wander in the wilderness before answering whether or not you believe that God created the universe by his literal word?Quote Is God a spirit beingThese are the only scriptures I know that touch on that issue and therefore going beyond them would be speculation.  If you know…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2011,11:06)Hi Kerwin,Thanks for expressing your point of view, as well as considering the evidence that is used to form mine. Your brother in Christ, Jesus.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J.I only do as I am instructed and seek understanding.  Praise God who does the instruction.

Mike,Quote God is Jehovah, the Most High God and the Creator of the heavens, the earth, and everything in them.  God is a Spirit Being.  And that Spirit Being brought forth other spirit beings known as angels, who CAN be tempted with evil even though they were spirit beings brought forth by God. Angels may well be created from nothing as s…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 01 2011,09:58)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 31 2011,23:48)Pierre,Quote I have the habit of taken in account all related scriptures so that the truth can be seen,You claim that but I doubt your claim is true or you would have acknowledged that the old creation was in fact created by the literal Word of God.   You have yet to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2011,00:46)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 31 2011,09:15)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2011,11:22)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 30 2011,16:04)Ed J.My “theory” is a literal interpretation and the reasonable conclusions I that are drawn from it.  You have not offered any reason why Luke 1:31 and 36 should not me taken literally.  I would like to hear i…[Read more]

Ed J.,One must be led by God in order to understand scriptures correctly. You can be led by God before being born again as it is he that leads you to be born again. Scriptures are useful for teaching and training in righteousness.In all that I agree with you.

Paladin,I consider these conversations to be public conversation where anyone can join as they see fit. PM's are for private conversations.

Pierre,Quote I have the habit of taken in account all related scriptures so that the truth can be seen,You claim that but I doubt your claim is true or you would have acknowledged that the old creation was in fact created by the literal Word of God.   You have yet to acknowledge that the old creation was created by the literal word of God.  Why i…[Read more]