Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 29 2011,21:36)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 29 2011,23:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 29 2011,08:33)I'm not asking what YOU think it means.  I'm asking if there is any scriptural or logical reason that it CAN'T mean exactly what it says – “ALL THINGS”?Mike,It would not be an internally consistent teaching as Paul is teaching about…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 29 2011,08:33)I'm not asking what YOU think it means.  I'm asking if there is any scriptural or logical reason that it CAN'T mean exactly what it says – “ALL THINGS”?Mike,It would not be an internally consistent teaching as Paul is teaching about righteousness and not about the creative aspect of God.

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2011,09:45)kerwin1Co 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father,FROM whom all things came and FOR whom we live ; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, THROUGH whom all things  came and THROUGH whom we livePAY ATTENTION TO WHAT PAUL IS SAYING OPEN YOUR EYES AND HEART THEN ANSWER MIKE'S QUESTION, THANKS…[Read more]

To all,Interesting quotes.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 29 2011,06:33)Hi Kerwin,I believe that the phrase “ALL THINGS” has the default meaning of ALL THINGS.  I agree with you that context and/or logic COULD narrow the scope of the phrase to include only certain things.  But I don't see any context in John 1:3, Col 1:16, or 1 Cor 8:6 that would make it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR to a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 28 2011,20:53)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 29 2011,06:44)Pierre,I am fairly sure that the topic of the 144,000 is off topic for this thread though it does touch on the spirit in some parts.  In addition I am attempting to keep my posts limited to a few threads and thus easier to keep track of.  I am also not sure how this p…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 28 2011,20:48)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 29 2011,06:53)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 28 2011,09:07)kerwinQuote Pierre,I was associating the “Then the end will come” in 1 Corinthians 15 to the “It is done” in Revelations 21 but I have not yet considered the passage you have quoted from Revelations 22.How do you understand them to rela…[Read more]

Quote (ftk @ Sep. 28 2011,19:25)Psalms 8:5…….FOR THOU HAST MADE HIM A LITTLE LOWER THAN….”elohiym”…plural of…”elowahh”/”eloahh”(the Diety: or God)! That's what is says, anyone can translate it any way they desire, but the truth in the end is Diety/God! TKFtk,What does “elohiym” mean in the context it is in if you do not interpret it?The…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 28 2011,09:07)kerwinQuote Pierre,I was associating the “Then the end will come” in 1 Corinthians 15 to the “It is done” in Revelations 21 but I have not yet considered the passage you have quoted from Revelations 22.How do you understand them to relate? go to “topic” understanding RevelationPierre,If God allows it and I a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 28 2011,06:22)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 27 2011,07:38)Mike,The whole chapter of 1 Corinthians 8 is concerning food sacrificed to idols, even the clause “all things”.  I also know that godly knowledge comes from God through, by, and for Jesus Anointed.  Paul was just supplying a tool that his readers could do as Peter i…[Read more]

Pierre,I am fairly sure that the topic of the 144,000 is off topic for this thread though it does touch on the spirit in some parts.  In addition I am attempting to keep my posts limited to a few threads and thus easier to keep track of.  I am also not sure how this particular line of conversation is useful for “teaching, rebuking, correcting and…[Read more]

T8,Quote Further back in the same chapter is says this:1 Corinthians 15:22For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.To put those words in context it states:Quote 1 Corinthians 15 King James Version (KJV)21For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 28 2011,06:26)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 28 2011,17:51)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 28 2011,03:06)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 27 2011,13:10)geneQuote While we can inherit the “DIVINE NATURE” we will not Inherit a so-Called “Spirit BODY” which is also and OXYMORON> becasue no such thing exists as a spirit body there is only Physical Bodies with…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 28 2011,06:34)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 27 2011,08:58)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2011,20:09)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 26 2011,23:52)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2011,09:55)kerwinthe first dead is the sentence to die and not be able to prevented because being separated from God,the second dead take place after Christ sacrifice ,were…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 28 2011,03:06)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 27 2011,13:10)geneQuote While we can inherit the “DIVINE NATURE” we will not Inherit a so-Called “Spirit BODY” which is also and OXYMORON> becasue no such thing exists as a spirit body there is only Physical Bodies with Spirits in them but Spirit has NO BODY.  IMOconfused ,confused,you are…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 28 2011,01:58)Ftk………I did go and checked it out it appears you are right Brother it should be rendered “Elohim” or GOD in the text in Hebrews. Good Job Brother.peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………..geneGene,The writer of Hebrews translated it to Messengers. I chose…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 27 2011,23:59)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 26 2011,23:38)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2011,09:23)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 25 2011,22:13)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2011,20:46)kerwinQuote But when God is finishedand wen is that PierrePierre,After Judgement day which occurs after the end of the Messianic Age(1000 years) is the tome I…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 27 2011,21:04)Kerwin……………The saints will also have that Glory and Honor Jesus is NOW HAVING, remember  Jesus said Father I give them the Glory you have Given Me also that where i am they may be also. Kerwin Don't  separate Jesus from our from our EXACT IDENTITY Lest you fall into the same trap the T…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 27 2011,07:29)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 25 2011,20:20)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Kerwin, in 1 Cor 8:6, what exactly is included in the “ALL THINGS” that came from the Father? Hearing that context causes me to conclude he the “all things” of 1 Corinthians 8:6 is congruent to that of the “all things” that God has given Jesus..…[Read more]

Gene,Quote Kerwin………….It is ALL about MANKIND and Jesus is Just One of Many He was the First to attain, But God has Placed all of mankind over his creation and crowned them with Glory and Honor, we do not see that happening (NOW) but what do we see Kerwin what we see is the First of Mankind to fulfill that statement of Glory and Honor that…[Read more]