Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2012,11:38)Hi KW, Those verses do not speak of when he was anointed.Nick,John 17:5King James Version (KJV) 5And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.They speak of the glory that Jesus had been having with Yahweh but not of when he was glorified.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2012,08:03)Hi KW, So where is that conception of flesh and spirit written about?Nick,Ecclesiastes 12:7 and Genesis 2:7.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2012,06:58)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 26 2012,18:41)Mike,It is true the body of the sun, moon, and stars are different than terrestrial bodies ……………That's really all we need to know, Kerwin.  Paul used examples that people could see from the earth, such as the sun, moon, and stars, to demonstrate that all heavenly…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2012,07:04)Hi MB,Do you have spiritual eyes?You will need them.There are no verse that SAY Jesus is the WORD.But Jesus Christ is that Word.Nick,It does state Jesus is called the Word. It also states Jesus is faithful and true; should we replace those words with him as well?I understand you can see the how that is…[Read more]

To all,Certain individuals read their doctrine into John 1 and other scriptures.  That is why I started the thread ”Psalms 119, 11: Who is the Word?”

Mike,It is true the body of the sun, moon, and stars are different than terrestrial bodies but it is also true not all flesh is the same as the flesh of a beast is not the flesh of a bird.  Flesh “quickened by the Spirit”, Romans 8:11, is not the same as flesh “dead because of sin”, Romans 8:10.Which is the man from heaven?  Is he the one who b…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2012,04:47)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 26 2012,13:01)Luke 1:24King James Version (KJV) 24And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying,Luke 1:36King James Version (KJV) 36And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with…[Read more]

To all,I have not heard why some here believe Scripture supports the teaching that the flesh and bone body Jesus revealed to his students after he rose from the dead is not his spiritual body.

Quote (dew @ Mar. 26 2012,15:11)You would have the mind of Christ.So what is the mind of Christ?Dew,Philippians 2:5-9 teaches that; if it is revealed to you by God.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2012,11:31)Hi KW, Indeed man cannot live on bread alone.The Word fed on can cleanse and protect.Some are even washed by the Word Jn15Nick,I am hoping that certain individuals come to realize that Jesus is not the Word as the Word is hidden in his heart. On the other hand he is called The Word for the same reasons he…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2012,10:50)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 25 2012,22:43)Hi Mike,You can't pressure others into believing as you do, youwill have to do it with Scripture, which you don't have.Let me know when you try to use another verse; OK?Ed,The point of Acts 4 is very simple.  It depicts who exactly created the heavens, earth, sea, and…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 26 2012,10:01)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2012,16:03)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2012,03:01)Hi KW,Sin within attacks the body and the mind. We are freed from the sin dwelling within the body at death and hopefully have overcome sin ruling the natural mind.Nick,What you write sounds correct.Jas 1:13 When tempted, no one should…[Read more]

Mike,Those five questions are not in regards to the question “Was Jesus created?”

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2012,10:32)Yes, he was created by God, as is everything in existence.Mike,It is self evident and yet there are those that disagree.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2012,10:04)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2012,22:02)Pierre,I take it for granted that both Jesus and John the Baptist are created; especially as Scripture declares they were  both conceived in their respective mother's wombs.Then for the purposes of this thread, you, I, and Pierre all agree that Jesus was created.Let's keep…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 26 2012,10:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 25 2012,23:02)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2012,21:58)Mike,It is absurd since no one questions that John the Baptist is created even though scripture attests that both he and Jesus were conceived.Thank you for that, Kerwin.Kathi, did you hear?  John was also both “conceived” and “born”,…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 26 2012,10:07)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 26 2012,22:02)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 26 2012,09:52)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 26 2012,21:50)To all,This is an absurd thread which is why I also started one asking if John the Baptist is created.Kerwinnow that you have given your opinion on this tread ,what is your opinion on your own question…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 26 2012,09:52)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 26 2012,21:50)To all,This is an absurd thread which is why I also started one asking if John the Baptist is created.Kerwinnow that you have given your opinion on this tread ,what is your opinion on your own question Pierre,I take it for granted that both Jesus and John the Baptist are…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2012,09:55)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2012,21:50)To all,This is an absurd thread which is why I also started one asking if John the Baptist is created.Absurd?  How so, Kerwin?Was Jesus created?  YES or NO?  Seems pretty simple to me.Mike,It is absurd since no one questions that John the Baptist is created even though sc…[Read more]

To all,This is an absurd thread which is why I also started one asking if John the Baptist is created.