Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 04 2012,08:04)Quote (jammin @ April 04 2012,12:54)really??LOLgive me any single translation that says in john 1.1 that the word is the father.i double dare youyou may start searching now LOLI could also turn the table on you and ask you for a single translation that says in Yahchanan 1:1 that the word is the son.…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 04 2012,08:17)Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2012,12:47)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 04 2012,05:44)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,09:20)Hi Frank Your source says”A deeper understanding of this is that he word or doctrine in God the Father produced the flesh in Jesus Christ's mind. We find Jesus' flesh being his word in…[Read more]

Pierre,I see no significant reason to go back in history the resolve communication difficulties we can resolve here.   My concern is to establish the fact that there is a spirit of Jesus; though it is only mentioned twice by that name.  It is not support for the idea Jesus is a spirit being or that he is God but only that there is a  spirit of Je…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 04 2012,05:44)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,09:20)Hi Frank Your source says”A deeper understanding of this is that he word or doctrine in God the Father produced the flesh in Jesus Christ's mind. We find Jesus' flesh being his word in John 6:51 and 63. ” Sounds gnosticNick,You obviously do not know what you are…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 04 2012,07:25)Quote (jammin @ April 04 2012,12:11)the WORD in john 1.1 is the son of GOD and not the father.john 1 14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. the son of GOD is GOD by nature. john…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 03 2012,13:52)Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,14:33)Quote (jammin @ April 03 2012,13:36)the WOrd is Christ in john 1.1 nick.now if you dont believe what john said, then make your own version LOLHi Jammin,”Christ” is not mentioned in John 1:1,perhaps you need to make your own version?Nice try though,Ed J (Joshua…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,01:31)Hi KW You say”Do you like some believe that Jesus locates himself in a believer instead of just his spirit of righteousness?” Id o not see SPIRIT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS written.The Spirit is HOLY but surely rightousness is fruit?Nick,I am emphasizing the fruit of the his spirit.

Pierre,Perhaps I am misunderstanding you as I am speaking of the words “Spirit of Jesus Christ”Philippians 1:19New American Standard Bible (NASB)19 for I know that this will turn out for my deliverance through your prayers and the provision of the Spirit of Jesus Christ, Footnotes:a.Philippians 1:19 Or salvationb.Philippians 1:19 Lit sup…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,03:01)Hi KW, Immaterial?Jesus is garbed in a new heavenly body.Nick,That which is composed of Spirit is not composed of matter.Yes, Jesus has a body from heaven.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,02:29)Hi KW, So it is in some way the raising of vain philosophical thoughts above scriptural truth?Nick,I assume you are using a “the most basic beliefs, concepts, and attitudes of an individual or group”  as an adjective.The Gnostics teach in vain as Jesus is not with them.  Their teachings influenced the d…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,00:45)From wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GnosticismSo it more about saving yourself by acquiring SECRET KNOWLEDGE-akin to the occult. Nothing to do with not accepting KW's ideas.Nick,From the Wikipedia entry you linked to.Quote The estimation of the world, owing to the above, as flawed or a production of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,00:40)Hi KW,You have suggested that not accepting your dogma that the tattered natural body of Jesus went into heaven is to believe in gnosticism. Would you like to enlarge on that accusation?Nick,Quote A more detailed Gnostic theology is as follows.  The unknowable God was far too pure and perfect to have…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2012,21:22)Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2012,00:15)Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,12:56)Quote (kerwin @ April 03 2012,00:37)Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,12:07)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2012,23:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2012,19:29)It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 03 2012,20:03)To all………The topic is, Jesus was caught up to heaven in a flesh body. I believe He was as it shows in scripture he was taken up in his Body. No one has produced any proof scripturally that a change took place as he ascended, and scripture say he will descend the same way he ascended. To think all…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 03 2012,19:04)To All……….Again there is no such ting as a “SPIRIT BODY” Spirits are what is (IN) BODIES of all Kinds. Spirits can only find REST (IN) BODIES. Consider this,  Spirits is like a Large Lakes of Water and if one takes and Pours some of the water into a Cup or Vessel they contains some of (that) same…[Read more]

Toby;You wrote:He would not have made the Spiritual Body into a carnal body because then it means that the Spiritual Body Can be corrupted which Scriptures says it cannot!Good point!

Mike:You wrote:It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus says HE will make his abode in us, then it means JESUS via spirit. Do you like some believe that Jesus locates himself in a believer instead of just his spirit of righteousness?I ask because the passage also states the believer is in both Jesus and Yahweh.John 17…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,12:56)Quote (kerwin @ April 03 2012,00:37)Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,12:07)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2012,23:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2012,19:29)It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus says HE will make his abode in us, then it means JESUS via spirit.  It d…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2012,08:54)Quote (jammin @ April 02 2012,19:56)corrupted??? bec it does not support your doctrine then you (edj) will say it is corrupted. can you give me any single translation that says in john 1.1 that the WORD is the HS???Well Ed?  Can you?Nick?  Can you show a version where it says the Word is “the spirit of c…[Read more]

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