Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,08:13)Hi KW, Jesus Christ is the first and last,First as he is the first of the new creation. Last because all who are saved are saved in himNick,Jesus is the first and last in the series of natural sons of God; as even the angels of God go to God through him.There is no other Son; just as there is no other…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,08:05)Hi KW, You say”The last Adam refers to Adam's inner man which is a life given spirit.” Adam never enjoyed the baptism of the Spirit. The Spirit of Christ gives life to those in the body.Nick,Adam's inner man is called the breath of life.

Quote (kerwin @ April 12 2012,07:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 12 2012,07:52)Quote (kerwin @ April 10 2012,21:32)King James version clearly states “what man” and then answers the question by stating “save the spirit of man which is in him”.  In answering the question “what man” it is calling a man's spirit man.Kerwin,You are confused.  It is not c…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 12 2012,07:52)Quote (kerwin @ April 10 2012,21:32)King James version clearly states “what man” and then answers the question by stating “save the spirit of man which is in him”.  In answering the question “what man” it is calling a man's spirit man.Kerwin,You are confused.  It is not calling the spirit of man a “man” at a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 12 2012,07:52)Quote (kerwin @ April 10 2012,21:32)King James version clearly states “what man” and then answers the question by stating “save the spirit of man which is in him”.  In answering the question “what man” it is calling a man's spirit man.Kerwin,You are confused.  It is not calling the spirit of man a “man” at a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,03:12)Quote (kerwin @ April 12 2012,06:23)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,13:58)Hi KW, And the soul of man is often referred to as the spirit of man.Yes the Spirit of God teaches His children and transforms their minds.The Body is also part of THE OLD MAN, the part that is discarded at deathYou did not look at…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 11 2012,09:14)Quote (kerwin @ April 11 2012,09:36)Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,12:48)Hi KerwinLike what?God blessEd J Ed,1 Corinthians 15King James Version (KJV) 47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven. There is no “the Lord” in the GreekHi Kerwin,1Cor.15:47 ὁ πρῶτος ἄνθρωπος ἐκ γῆς…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 11 2012,22:30)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,00:13)Quote (terraricca @ April 11 2012,16:22)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,23:20)Hi T, There is no division in Christ 1 cor 12. You can be like him if you are led by his Spirit.Nare you part of the called ones ,or more the elect ones ?Hi T, There is no division in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,02:27)Hi KW,Were they created ignoble?Adam and Eve did not have the Spirit of wisdom that gives eternal life.Nick,I know not whether they were created noble vessels but I do not believe Adam and Eve had the spirit of wisdom as that spirit comes with maturity.

Quote (charity @ April 12 2012,02:42)what are you saying…He willed not to drink the cup of suffering, all this holy spirit talk has no clarity, even Jesus's spirit wavered at open doors.Charity,It has clarity if you understand the language. It is the old man, the spirit that falls short of God's righteousness and holiness; who in following;…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ April 11 2012,17:18)It about will an seeing other open doors sir.God has never prevented a just man from being chastened by another more powerful man? why do some believe Jesus is different? hence why was Jesus's will to not drink the cup of suffering?Charity,I do not know what Jesus' will was on the matter as he not say and he…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,01:11)Hi KW, Would you presume it was?Why?Nick,All I know is God created some noble vessels and some ignoble vessels.  There were ignoble vessels, such as Lucifer, that existed before the fall.  I do not believe that either Adam or Eve were ignoble vessels; but I believe they were instead led to sin because of t…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,01:00)Quote (terraricca @ April 12 2012,04:04)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,01:58)Hi KW, And the soul of man is often referred to as the spirit of man.Yes the Spirit of God teaches His children and transforms their minds.The Body is also part of THE OLD MAN, the part that is discarded at deathYou did not…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,13:58)Hi KW, And the soul of man is often referred to as the spirit of man.Yes the Spirit of God teaches His children and transforms their minds.The Body is also part of THE OLD MAN, the part that is discarded at deathYou did not look at the other verses.Nick,You are correct that the soul of a man is at times…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 11 2012,23:00)Quote (kerwin @ April 12 2012,00:11)Pierre,Quote Christ was already the son of God way before all creation By being the first of Gods creation , That conclusion is flawed as it does not follow from the premise you have given and contradicts Scripture that states Jesus was conceived in his mother’s inward p…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,14:02)Hi KW, You forget the SOUL of man. Man is a living SOULOnly the Spirit can cleave between the soul and spirit Nick,I lack knowledge of how or if the soul of men was effected by the Fall.

Quote (Ed J @ April 11 2012,12:34)Quote (Marlin1 @ April 11 2012,12:14)Conceived, means to “be born”Hi Marlin,FALSE!    …do you really not know the difference?Conceived means “pregnancy”, and birthed means to “be born”.     …they are not interchangeable terms!God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J,Pregnancy is a poo…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ April 11 2012,11:18)Free wil, Jesus did not want to drink a cup of suffering, yes that means he was not so convinced as you are that he was to be dyeing as such….Goals had not be reached..the mission was not fifilled… John was wilful in convincing word..as if he knew Jesus mission better than he did himself…without wavering,…[Read more]

Marlin,Where did you get the idea conceived means to be born?  Conceived means to come into existence and is translated from ancient Greek word that basically means “taken”.  There is nothing of born about it as all.  John the Baptist was also taken in his mother’ womb and was there six months when Jesus’ miracles conception was foretold t…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,10:15)Hi KW, You say”The spirit of man is also called “old man” and “new man”, Romans 6:6 , Ephesians 4:22 , Colossians 3:9 , Ephesians 2:15 , Ephesians 4:24 , and Colossians 3:10 .  It is not in the Greek but it is inferred by the context in Colossians 3:10. “Back to the drawing board. The spirit of man is not…[Read more]