t8,

You are implying Jesus’ sacrifice was in vain.

This a basic tenet of Christianity that Jesus laid down his life for to save believers.

Your words are saying that you do not believe that.

Galatians 3:13-14New English Translation (NET Bible)
13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us (because it is written,…

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t8,

t8,

You are implying Jesus’ sacrifice was in vain.

This a basic tenet of Christianity that Jesus laid down his life for to save believers.

Your words are saying that you do not believe that.

Galatians 3:13-14New English Translation (NET Bible)
13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us (because it is…

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t8,

for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

Savior is another prophetic title as Jesus wasn’t the Savior until after he died and was resurrected. It was his calling, as were being both Christ and King.

Romans 9:10-13New English Translation (NET Bible)

10 Not only that, but when Rebekah had…

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Nick,

Have you not read Scripture that under the Law both priests and kings were anointed. Jesus is both a high priest ans a king. When Scripture states Jesus was anointed to teach the gospel and do go works then it means he was anointed to preach the gospel and do good works. The title Christ means anointed to be King. Preaching the word of…[Read more]

Danny Dabbs,

Yes, the prophetic sense is how we see it. Nick see the anointing as occurring at the Jordan but I believe that was only the anointing to preach the gospel and to do good works.

I do know that it is as a result of him sacrificing even to sacrificing his own life for other that God rewarded him by giving him a name that is above…[Read more]

T8.

Actually they are your interpretation of the facts.

No Kerwin. The scriptures I gave are the facts. Look at the one in the above post. That is fact. And it is also a fact that you are trying to draw me away from what it says. Read it carefully and consider the message that the angel of God delivered. If that angel signed up to Heaven Net…[Read more]

t8,

“Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”

If you take both of the following passages in the same way then Jesus was king when he was born and then he was made king as a result of his obedience even to dying on the cross. That is a broken doctrine.

Philippians 2:8…

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t8,

Jesus was made both Lord and Christ. He was born those things and sent into the world to do what those things require. What came first, the utterance of prophecy from a prophet or the prophet?

The word of God comes first. The prophet comes much later. God has had a plan since before the world began and it will prevail.

t8,

Jesus was made both Lord and Christ. He was born those things and sent into the world to do what those things require. What came first, the utterance of prophecy from a prophet or the prophet?

These words are words of denial. The only argument I see is that you claim Scripture means what you want it to mean. It is a very poor argument…[Read more]

Bump because I stumbled across it at take as a sign.

t8.

Same words but different meanings. Nick is using a different meaning than what you are hearing and thus you misunderstand him.

t9,

Kerwin, why is it then that I am opposed by you, Nick, and Gene when I proclaim exactly the same message as that angel of God?

1) You seem to lack knowledge of the fact that natural languages are implicitly ambiguous or would not insist there is only one possible interpretation of a set of words with backing it up with either written or…[Read more]

Marty,

The link is broken.

t8,

Thank you.

I hope others paused and admired the view.

t8,

I understand.

I am five hours later than you.

t8,

Nick interprets John’s words spiritually and though I do not think that was John’s intent it is still a true interpretation.

Spiritual interpretation is that Jesus does not literally come and dwell in a believe but rather it is the Spirit he walked by that comes and dwells in a believer.

Jesus speaks in the same manner when he claims I am…[Read more]

t8,

Kerwin, I am not sure what you are saying.

I am saying Scripture explicitly claims Jesus was made King because he chose to give his life upon the cross. That occurred well after his birth. The wise men called Jesus King of Israel before he actually was king just like God called Abraham the father of many nations before he was the father of…[Read more]

Ed J,

There are two verses that state two similar but different concepts.

1 John 4:2New English Translation (NET Bible)

2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses Jesus as the Christ who has come in the flesh is from God,

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2 John 7New English Translation (NET Bible)

7 For many deceivers have gone out into…

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t8,

Are you dodging a straightforward challenge to interpret your words to agree with Scripture or are you in a hurry and missed what I wrote in my last post? It is my impression it is the first.

I strive to explain my words and so destroy but you just insist your are true even though I point out where they disagree with Scripture. That is not…[Read more]

Ed,

I am well aware of pulling words out of context but you refusal to defend your words sound like arrogance. It also misses a teaching moment.

The martyr or victim complex is old.

I assure you that judging your words is not judging you. You have the choice to change your ways may no longer agree with with what you wrote then. I have no…[Read more]