Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2012,07:34)Hi KW, The lamb that was slain is now glorious.Nick;He still looks like “a Lamb as it had been slain.”What you believe is not based on Scripture but on a willful lack of knowledge. You need to test you beliefs and action to make sure they conform to the truth. Jesus was planted as a flesh and blood mortal…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2012,03:39)Hi KW,The planted old body is raised for us to be alike to the man from heaven. If we have a new glorious body why would his be tattered and torn?Your striving seems more to be to prove your own doctrineNick;Revelation 5:12King James Version (KJV)12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,04:09)Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2012,13:11)Luke 24:39King James Version (KJV)39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.Hi Kerwin,Doesn't that scripture work against you?  It was Jesus who taught us in John 3 that flesh cannot…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2012,02:43)Hi KW, 1Cor 15 disagrees with your idea that changes occur in the tomb.Nick;I have sown seeds and they do not rise as seeds but instead become whatever plant Yawheh has appointed. Why would you claim otherwise?Jesus' seed was planted in his tomb and arose as the plant Yawheh appointed.  Like unto a seed…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2012,22:01)Quote (kerwin @ June 09 2012,02:21)Wakeup;What you state is not taught in Scriptures.  It is taught that the body that is laid in the grave is not the body that rises out of the grave.  We are taught that the body that rose out of Jesus grave is flesh and bone and that it is that same body he was seen ascending t…[Read more]

T;Quote that scripture does not teach that Christ keeps his visible appearance in heaven ,this is what you want to assume. You assume that Jesus is a spirit being in heaven despite his actively giving evidence he is flesh and bone instead.   That scripture teaches us that body that was quickened was not spirit and is flesh and bone.Scripture…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 10 2012,03:11)Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2012,06:50)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2012,16:26)Hi KW, Would you ask to put your hand in his side too?Nick;I am the one that believes he is flesh and bone and not solely composed of spirit.Kerwin.How does it feel to go against scripture?wakeup.Wakeup;This is what Scripture declares:Luke…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2012,16:26)Hi KW, Would you ask to put your hand in his side too?Nick;I am the one that believes he is flesh and bone and not solely composed of spirit.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2012,09:40)Hi KW, Caught up from earth in flesh YESInto heaven VERY DOUBTFULNick;Is there any record of a transformation?

Wakeup;What you state is not taught in Scriptures.  It is taught that the body that is laid in the grave is not the body that rises out of the grave.  We are taught that the body that rose out of Jesus grave is flesh and bone and that it is that same body he was seen ascending to heaven in.  We are also taught he will descend in the same ma…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 08 2012,07:49)Quote (kerwin @ June 07 2012,19:38)What of the chariot of fire the split Elisha and Elijah apart so the later could be taken into heaven in a whirlwind?I don't believe the common understanding that spirit beings “create” bodies when they are to be seen.  I believe they are around us all the time, but that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 08 2012,05:22)Quote (kerwin @ June 07 2012,13:39)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2012,08:17)2 Kings 6:17And Elisha prayed, “O LORD, open his eyes so he may see.” Then the LORD opened the servant’s eyes, and he looked and saw the hills full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.To all;Did the horses and chari…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2012,06:49)Hi KW, All men can only receive the Spirit while they live.But flesh has no futureNick;It is not written that “flesh has no future” but instead it is taught that time will be cut short in order to save flesh; for the sake of the Elect.The Spirit performs many tasks; each as he is commanded and at the times…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2012,06:38)Hi KW, Flights of determined fancy loosely based on scripture.Who is your Lord?Nick;Scripture explicitly speaks of the Spirit quickened mortal body; are you accusing it of a flight of fancy?If not then you must admit there is a Spirit quickened mortal body.As for the blood quickened flesh; it is…[Read more]

T;Quote sorry but the expression FLESH in scriptures means our live in the world as it stands condemned by the sin of Adam,So you claim flesh is an idiom while flesh and blood is not.  In doing so you appear to cherry picking Scriptures by calling those that fit you preconceived notions as idioms, idioms while denying those that do not fit your…[Read more]

Mike;Quote On earth, John the Baptist had “born of a woman” status, meaning that he was flesh; because flesh gives birth to flesh, right?  Jesus was saying that among those of flesh, none is greater than John – but the least of those in the Kingdom of heaven (those who are NOT of flesh) is greater than even the greatest flesh being.When John…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2012,03:40)Hi KW, Nobody doubts your determination to be right.Nick;Scripture does infer that some flesh will be saved when Yawheh cuts time short. Do you disagree with it.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2012,03:15)Hi KW, Would you add in that he healed his flesh?Nick;Have you considered the possibility that the translators interpreted words to the effect he did not?Whether or not he did he chose to do what he did for his own righteous reasons.

Nick, Wakeup, Mike, and Terraricca,Here are two passages.Mark 13:20King James Version (KJV)20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.and1 Corinthians 15:50King James Version (KJV)50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 08 2012,02:17)Quote (kerwin @ June 08 2012,13:36)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2012,04:01)Hi KW, God anointed Jesus of Nazareth and he went about doing good and healing…Acts 10Nick;Does Jesus have the power to heal his flesh if he chooses?Kwhy T;It is my answer to Nick's pondering about Jesus' rent and tattered flesh.