Quote (terraricca @ June 13 2012,11:02)Quote (kerwin @ June 13 2012,22:29)T;I apologize as all read was what you stated about the 144,000.You also wrote:Quote it is not that the law was nulled but for thier sins it was ,because we all deserve dead ,but God grace give us a new start so that we can be reborn .God's grace of the new covenant is the…[Read more]

Wakeup;Quote Kerwin.You are grasping straw,quoting scriptures that has nothing to do with the topic.YOUR QUOTE:God is love and his children are love but bear flesh(scripture please.)(Is this in the new testament?).Compare Jesus ascension to heaven; and his coming,rev19.wakeup.It is a paraphrase of what is taught in 1 John 4 applied to John 4:24…[Read more]

T;I apologize as all read was what you stated about the 144,000.You also wrote:Quote it is not that the law was nulled but for thier sins it was ,because we all deserve dead ,but God grace give us a new start so that we can be reborn .God's grace of the new covenant is the Holy Spirit; which procreates, teaches, creates the new man we are…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 13 2012,07:15)Quote (kerwin @ June 13 2012,18:45)T;I am pointing out that the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit; and “the sun of righteousness” procreates a new man in those that believe.  That man is spirit and not flesh as I speak of the inner man and not the outer man; which is restored to God at a different time.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2012,07:10)Hi KW, The inner man is made new. Renewed in his mind.Nick;Yes; he has the same mindset as Jesus Christ.

Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2012,01:55)Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2012,05:53)Wakeup;There is no marriage or giving in marriage in the World To Come.   Jesus is called both the Son of man and the Son of David; even at the present time.Kerwin.yes,there is no marriage in the world to come.My question is still valid: what would be the three ex husbands to…[Read more]

T;I am pointing out that the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit; and “the sun of righteousness” procreates a new man in those that believe. That man is spirit and not flesh as I speak of the inner man and not the outer man; which is restored to God at a different time. There is a Day of Judgement when those reject the sound teaching will be…[Read more]

T;Quote there is no PROCREATION ,the spirit was always their but could not been accessed by any one ,ONLY WHEN CHRIST CAME AND PAID THE RANSOM IT WAS NOW GIVEN,NOT PROCREATEDI invited you to do some research on the Ancient Greek word “gennaó” which is translated “born” in John 3:6 but begat in other places.  Procreate would cover both choices as w…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2012,02:32)hi KW, A living soul is a body with a spirit in it? I thought this must be your idea. But we are SOULS and the word SOUL occurs extremely often in all of scriptureNick;I believe you are speaking to Gene and not me.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2012,15:01)Hi KW,The spirit that left Jesus at Calvary? The spirit that returns to God?That is just borrowed life. You mean the soul?Nick;The soul is that which either hungers and thirsts for righteousness or loves sin; just as it is written:Psalm 42:1King James Version (KJV)42 As the hart panteth after the water…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2012,13:11)Hi KW, We who are body, soul and spirit, receive into our cleansed vessel, the Holy Spirit.Nick;That is true. The Spirit teaches our spirit in all things.

Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2012,13:46)Kborn mean beginning of ……just as dead means the END OF THINGSbirth is the beginning of life action…..so born again would mean restart in a new direction what in this case is going  from following the flesh desires to  live according to the spirit (Gods will)T;What you say it true as far as it goes b…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2012,07:43)Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2012,18:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2012,05:56)Kerwin,Flesh gives birth to flesh………………SO…………in order to enter into the Kingdom of God, one must be born AGAIN from above, of water and spirit……………..because FLESH cannot enter.That is what Jesus taught…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2012,06:28)Hi KW, The Spirit does not SIRE other spirits.The Spirit is one and unifies.Nick;I strive to remain loyal to the actual meaning of the Ancient Greek but I stretched the meaning of sired to speak of one procreated of neuter gender; which the Ancient Greek words of “flesh” and “spirit”are. Procreated is…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2012,10:02)kQuote What I am stating is given the rule is “that which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit” then it follows that only flesh is sired of flesh and only spirit is sired of spirit even though God has the ability to transform one to the other.  If you claim that spir…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2012,05:56)Kerwin,Flesh gives birth to flesh………………SO…………in order to enter into the Kingdom of God, one must be born AGAIN from above, of water and spirit……………..because FLESH cannot enter.That is what Jesus taught Nicodemus.   Paul confirmed this teaching in 1 Cor 15.Mike;What you state…[Read more]

Mike,Quote In what way would it conflict with Jesus' words?  Are you saying that God can't cause those who are flesh to be born again, not of flesh, but of water and spirit so they can inherit His Kingdom? What I am stating is given the rule is “that which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit” then it foll…[Read more]

Wakeup;There is no marriage or giving in marriage in the World To Come. Jesus is called both the Son of man and the Son of David; even at the present time.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2012,15:56)Hi KW, Looks like a lamb slain?Nick;Revelations 5:6 has the statement “and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain” in it.

Wakeup;Quote Kerwin.What about the 24 elders; are they flesh and bone also?wakeup.The only humans that do not have their flesh and blood body changed to a flesh and bone body in the tomb are those that are changed while still living. The elders appear to be human.