Quote (Wakeup @ July 01 2012,09:14)Quote (kerwin @ June 23 2012,10:51)To all;It is an untruth to claim that all sons of God are angels.  In Job angels are called by the name of the sons of God but in the Five Books of Law it is the Hebrew people whom are called the children of the most high.  Genesis is one of the Five Books while Job was i…[Read more]

Gene;Do you believe in fallen angels?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2012,03:12)Quote (kerwin @ July 02 2012,02:00)I hold this interpretation is flawed even though Paul's choice of words make it seem reasonable.  I am using it as an example of how false inferences can be drawn from a passage.It not only seems reasonable, Kerwin, but it is supported by MANY other scriptures.  So you m…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 02 2012,10:41)Correct. He did not take on the nature of angels.Rather he existed in the form of God, or the nature of God, emptied himself, and took on the form of man or the nature of man. Now he is back in the glory that he had with the Father before the world began.T8;Your interpretation Philippians 2 is based on what you…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2012,12:08)KChrist was created the first Col:1;15-20And sins his father his spirit he his part of that spirit realm,Also see Pro:8;22-31And John1:14 And many others list to long ,but see topic preexistance of Christ,T;Jesus Anointed did not take on the nature of a creature of the realms of heaven. Colossians 1:15 does…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2012,12:08)KChrist was created the first Col:1;15-20And sins his father his spirit he his part of that spirit realm,Also see Pro:8;22-31And John1:14 And many others list to long ,but see topic preexistance of Christ,T;Your chosen interpretations infers that1} The World to Come is subject to creatures of the realms of…[Read more]

Marty,Scriptures=Writings. It is just traditions that lead us to say Scriptures.There is no mention of Jesus in 1 Corinthians 15:45-47. That interpretation is based on tradition, the idea Jesus is a being whose body consists of spirit and that Jesus is the first man of the new creation. The KJV also has added words that support it which are not…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2012,20:25)Quote (kerwin @ June 30 2012,01:58)Your words make it seem that you are wrapped in the letter of Scripture but fail to follow the Spirit of Scripture.Kerwin, It seems there are only two choices:1.  Each and every time “the word of God” is mentioned in the scriptures, it refers to Jesus.2.  More than one t…[Read more]

T;I apologize for writing the word spirit as opposed to the correct word wind in my earlier post. I have now corrected that error and put a note to that effect.

T;I am not blown to and fro by the winds of doctrine but I do like to hear reason in your responses.  I am already conceding the word angel means messenger and that scouts, prophets, teachers, ect. can be called messenger.  I am just pointing out that Jesus was not created with the nature of a creature of the realm of spirit; nor will the World t…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 30 2012,05:07)Quote (kerwin @ June 30 2012,09:45)To all;You all know it is written that the the World to come is not subject to Messengers.  If you state Messengers means both man and angelic beings then you state it is not subject to Jesus Christ.  You know that is not true. That leaves you with two possibilities which a…[Read more]

Mike;Quote NO, it is NOT “sufficient”, Kerwin.I want to know if God intended to say He would put JESUS in His people's inward parts.  Did he mean JESUS in Jer 31:33?  YES or NO?Your words make it seem that you are wrapped in the letter of Scripture but fail to follow the Spirit of Scripture.  To follow the spirit you must seek understanding of it…[Read more]

Marty;Do you believe that Jesus is called the Second Adam in the Writings? If so; where is he so called; and why is he called that?Was Adam sired of either or woman? Is God both his mother and father?Was Eve sired of a woman? Is God her mother and Adam her father?Do you believe God sires children in the same way his creations do? If not then…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2012,04:41)Quote (kerwin @ June 29 2012,00:39)Mike,Quote Does scripture tell us when or why Jesus started being called the Word of God?  If it does, that is news to me.Anyway, your response was irrelevant to my question.  I only want to know if God meant Jesus when he spoke of putting His word in His people's inward p…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 29 2012,05:16)Quote (kerwin @ June 29 2012,01:29)T;Jehovah states that he commanded the angels to pay homage to Jesus Christ as soon as he came into the world, Hebrews 1:6.  I have heard of no angel he did not so instruct.  I know the angels paid him homage when he was first revealed to the world, Luke 2:13-14.  That wa…[Read more]

To all;You all know it is written that the the World to come is not subject to Messengers.  If you state Messengers means both man and angelic beings then you state it is not subject to Jesus Christ.  You know that is not true. That leaves you with two possibilities which are:1}  The earth is subject to humanity and the creatures from the realm of…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 29 2012,12:33)Quote (kerwin @ June 30 2012,00:11)Quote (terraricca @ June 29 2012,06:24)Quote (kerwin @ June 29 2012,18:02)T;Scripture states the righteous live by faith.  They also state that without faith you cannot please.  The one who does not trust Jehovah does not believe he is who he is because he is T…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Does scripture tell us when or why Jesus started being called the Word of God?  If it does, that is news to me.Anyway, your response was irrelevant to my question.  I only want to know if God meant Jesus when he spoke of putting His word in His people's inward parts in Jer 31:33.  Do you think God was talking about Jesus in that sc…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 29 2012,06:24)Quote (kerwin @ June 29 2012,18:02)T;Scripture states the righteous live by faith.  They also state that without faith you cannot please.  The one who does not trust Jehovah does not believe he is who he is because he is Trustworthy.Kread the scriptures more and more you needed ,faith is it trust what is t…[Read more]

T;Scripture states the righteous live by faith. They also state that without faith you cannot please. The one who does not trust Jehovah does not believe he is who he is because he is Trustworthy.