Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 07 2012,05:12)I have no clue what you are talking about with your Abraham reference, but I read your answer to my post and to t8's post, and it seems you are missing a step:Was existing in the form of God > was made in the likeness of a human being.Your claim that Jehovah made him from nothing into the likeness of a human…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 06 2012,21:12)Quote (kerwin @ July 06 2012,17:29)Gene;Satan is an Adversary who is a fallen angel.  A satan stood in the way of Balaam ready to take his life but for the actions of a loyal donkey.  The book of Job speaks of some of Satan's powers.Kerwin……..Produce one scripture that say There is an ANGEL NAMED S…[Read more]

Gene;Satan is an Adversary who is a fallen angel. A satan stood in the way of Balaam ready to take his life but for the actions of a loyal donkey. The book of Job speaks of some of Satan's powers.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2012,05:47)Actually Kerwin,I have some better questions for you:When was Jesus existing as something other than a human being so that he had to be (your words) “made by Jehovah in the likeness of humanity”?And what was he existing as before he had to be “made by Jehovah in the likeness of humanity”?Mike;I do not believe…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 06 2012,05:41)Quote (kerwin @ July 06 2012,08:21)T8;You are inadvertently altering the passage when you replace “the nature of a servant” with “the nature of man.  The order of things seems to infer that all that was done previously to Jesus being “made” in the likeness of humanity but the word “made” is elsewhere translated “bo…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 06 2012,03:36)Quote (kerwin @ July 05 2012,11:20)Mike;Quote then it makes perfect logical AND scriptural sense that the Word of God who was with the Father in the beginning, but was then made into a human being, and dwelled as a human being on earth with the glory of the only begotten of the Father, is one and the same…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 06 2012,05:59)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 06 2012,12:40)To Those Who Do Understand,Father Yahweh's word is not a separate person, being, “god”, or “an angel.”And the Word was WITH GOD.The Word became flesh.He is called “The Word of God”.Have another go Frank because we clearly believe this and you deny it, even though it is…[Read more]

T8;You are inadvertently altering the passage when you replace “the nature of a servant” with “the nature of man.  Philippians 2:6-7 is clearly speaking of the inner nature of God as Jesus sees equality to God as something not to be grasped because of that nature.   Satan has the outer nature of an angel and yet does seek to be equal to God.  I…[Read more]

Mike;Quote then it makes perfect logical AND scriptural sense that the Word of God who was with the Father in the beginning, but was then made into a human being, and dwelled as a human being on earth with the glory of the only begotten of the Father, is one and the same person as the one who bears the title “the Word of God” in Rev 19:13. Where…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 05 2012,06:00)Quote (kerwin @ July 03 2012,21:52)T8;If you believe you are only quoting Scriptures then you are deceived.   You are interpreting those Scriptures as you seek to know them.  The question you should be asking is whether that interpretation is from God or man.Who, being in very nature God,   did not consider eq…[Read more]

Marty,Quote How did John the Baptist recognize the Word of God in Jesus? I am not sure it is written but it seems reasonable that he listened to the Spirit that spoke through him. It is clear he did from the words of John 1:15 and Matthew 3:14.Quote Sin is defined as “the transgression of the Law”, and an infant has not transgressed the Law, and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2012,05:51)Quote (kerwin @ July 04 2012,17:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2012,00:35)Kerwin, is there at least one time in scripture when the phrase “the word of God” does NOT refer to that which comes out of the mouth of God, but to the PERSON Jesus Christ?  YES or NO?Mike;I know of no Scriptures where Jesus is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2012,00:35)Kerwin, is there at least one time in scripture when the phrase “the word of God” does NOT refer to that which comes out of the mouth of God, but to the PERSON Jesus Christ?  YES or NO?Mike;I know of no Scriptures where Jesus is explicitly called the Word of God even as he is called Faithful and True.  I do o…[Read more]

Mike;I know that the English word “shape” can be used to describe authority and that certain experts state the ancient Greek word “morph” can be used as the outward expression that embodies an inner substance. I do not believe that Phillipians 2 is speaking of authority even though a litteral understanding of clauses “shape of God” and “shape of a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2012,05:26)I have no clue why you're even talking about “authority”.  The Greek word “morphe” means “outward appearance of a person or thing”.Jesus was existing with an outward appearance like that of God when he was a spirit being, but then took on the the outward appearance of a lowly servant by being made into a…[Read more]

T8;If you believe you are only quoting Scriptures then you are deceived. You are interpreting those Scriptures as you seek to know them. The question you should be asking is whether that interpretation is from God or man. I chose to use a false interpretation that we would both agree is false to reveal that an untruth can be gleaned from an…[Read more]

Marty,I am not currently on topic in all parts; though I have mentioned the fact that John the Baptist recognized the Word in Jesus as Jesus was coming to be immersed.An infant; even in his mother’s womb has the nature of sin; as is common to humanity.  That same infant is not accountable for his sin because he has no knowledge of sin or ri…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2012,07:39)Quote (kerwin @ July 02 2012,18:34)Mike;Both that which comes out of the mouth of God and Jesus are called by the same name.  Jesus is not that which comes out off the mouth of God…………….So at least once in scripture (Rev 19:13), the phrase “the word of God” is NOT referring to that which comes out…[Read more]

Wakeup;Quote Kerwin .You should just do away with reading the english bible and just go by your  ancient greek bible.wakeup. It is not my Ancient Greek version of the New Testament;  It is the one used in more modern translations. I did make an error as the added words are in 1 Corinthians 15:47 and not 1 Corinthians 15:45.  There is no “the Lord…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 01 2012,20:17)Quote (kerwin @ June 30 2012,23:27)Mike;Each time the Word of God is mentioned in Scripture is means the Word that comes out of Jehovah's mouth.   This includes Revelations 19:13.  Jesus is called by the name of that which comes out of the mouth of God.And is Jesus literally a word that God spoke, or a p…[Read more]