Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 17 2012,07:20)Quote (kerwin @ July 16 2012,01:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 16 2012,05:07)From Paul's point of view when he wrote the letter to the Philippians, was “existing in the form of God” PRESENT tense, or PAST tense?Philippians 2 is speaking of an event that occurred.  So then Phil 2:5-6 truly teaches, “Your…[Read more]

T8,You quote John 8:58 as if you believe it states before Abraham existed I did.  It clearly does not state that before Abraham “ginomai”, I am. “ginomai” has many meaning of which you or others can cherry pick the one they fell more comfortable.  Basing a teaching on such a hard to understand Scripture instead of using more easily understood to u…[Read more]

Marty;Jesus' flesh and blood was not formed by the fusion of male and female gametes but his body was miraculously formed from a part of Mary.  Scripture does not call Jesus a half God; it calls him a man.Scripture calls him a descendant of David; as of flesh and blood. He is a descendant of Yahweh as for the Spirit.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 16 2012,05:07)Quote (kerwin @ July 15 2012,16:39)Mike,You hold that an angel has the outward form of Jehovah at the same time he has the outward form of a servant.You also hold that an angel has the inward form of Jehovah at the same time he has the inward of a servant.You argue that Philippians 2:6-7 teaches that Jesus…[Read more]

Mike,You hold that an angel has the outward form of Jehovah at the same time he has the outward form of a servant.You also hold that an angel has the inward form of Jehovah at the same time he has the inward of a servant.You argue that Philippians 2:6-7 teaches that Jesus surrendered the outward form of one servant and took on the outward form of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 15 2012,09:04)Quote (kerwin @ July 13 2012,03:21)While Jehovah is the one that made him in the likeness of humanity.  Jesus did not choose to be in the likeness of humanity; he was made that way.And was Jesus in any other form before being made in the likeness of a human being?  It seems to me that the non-preexisters r…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ July 15 2012,19:49)Kerwin.Here is my next question:Did Mary have to Change Gods nappies,and feed on her breast?wakeup.Wakeup,I do not hold that Jesus is Jehovah.I do hold that he is the Son of Yahweh's Spirit.

Quote (Wakeup @ July 15 2012,03:11)Quote (kerwin @ July 13 2012,20:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 13 2012,05:29)Kerwin, do YOU have anything to add to my last post to Gene – seeing how you and he have shared the view that root and branch carry the same metaphorical meaning?Mike,It seems to me that Jesus is the Rod of Jesse and the church is the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2012,08:07)Quote (kerwin @ July 14 2012,12:42)Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2012,05:08)Hi Marty,”The Word” was God                  (John 1:1)”The Word” was made flesh       (John 1:14)God blessEd J Ed,You are making assumptions about how the Word is God and how the Word is made flesh.Reveal how you arrived at your conclusions…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2012,08:17)Quote (kerwin @ July 14 2012,20:09)Quote (terraricca @ July 13 2012,23:45)gQuote You know God lives in a man through his Holy Spirit; so why do you doubt demons live in men through their unclean spirits. were did you read this ?T;The first part is explicitly written and has been quoted many times in your…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 13 2012,23:45)gQuote You know God lives in a man through his Holy Spirit; so why do you doubt demons live in men through their unclean spirits. were did you read this ?T;The first part is explicitly written and has been quoted many times in your reading. The second part is evident in the many examples of demon possession.

Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2012,17:11)Kerwin.I believe in evil spirits and in the devil and fallen angels.But what is a demon; where is that word mentioned in scripture?wakeup.Wakeup,Demon is a variation of the ancient Greek daimon. Devil is said to come from the ancient Greek word diábolos. The translators of the KJV appear to have viewed them as synonyms.

Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2012,05:08)Hi Marty,”The Word” was God                  (John 1:1)”The Word” was made flesh       (John 1:14)God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd,You are making assumptions about how the Word is God and how the Word is made flesh.Reveal how you arrived at your conclusions and how they relate to t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 13 2012,05:29)Kerwin, do YOU have anything to add to my last post to Gene – seeing how you and he have shared the view that root and branch carry the same metaphorical meaning?Mike,It seems to me that Jesus is the Rod of Jesse and the church is the Branch that grows out of his roots.A root is the member or faction of a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 13 2012,05:27)Kerwin,Do you agree that “existing in the form of God” is PAST TENSE, otherwise Paul would have been writing about the form Jesus was in AT THE TIME Paul actually wrote the letter?  YES or NO?And Jesus cannot be in the form of God and in the form of a servant at the same time.  He could be in the form of G…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2012,19:21)Quote (kerwin @ July 12 2012,12:03)Gene;Quote Kerwin……… Yes i have ,and believe the big problem Here is not understand what a SPIRIT (IS) .  The “Spirit” of an Adversary is not a Person of any Kind it is a SPIRIT (INTELLECT) and can be in anyone yes even PETER and the PHARISEES . Spirit is Spiirt and a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 12 2012,06:49)I don't think “begot” is the right word to use of an utterance that came out of someone's mouth, Kerwin.  Nor have you likely ever said you “begot” any of the words you have spoken in your lifetime.  You said:Quote and in the Word is love; which is the light and life of men?I know it is scriptural that in t…[Read more]

Mike,The ongoing action “seeing” does not stop before the past action “decided” initiates. Instead the “seeing” results in the “decided”. In fact a wise candidate would continue to keep an eye on things on the ground just in case circumstances changed.Philippians 2:6-7 tells us that Jesus was in the form of God when he saw equality with G…[Read more]

Gene;Quote Kerwin……… Yes i have ,and believe the big problem Here is not understand what a SPIRIT (IS) .  The “Spirit” of an Adversary is not a Person of any Kind it is a SPIRIT (INTELLECT) and can be in anyone yes even PETER and the PHARISEES . Spirit is Spiirt and a Person or “BEING” is quite another. Spirits are what makes up the Person…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 12 2012,05:51)Quote (kerwin @ July 11 2012,17:31)Mike;You wish an answer according to the letter of the Word and I answered according to the spirit.I don't have time for this mish-mash, Kerwin.  The answer to my question is, “NO, love is never said to have been 'begotten', nor is it ever said to have displayed the glory…[Read more]