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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 04 2012,07:07)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 03 2012,14:25)The words Spiritual Bodies are referencing how those BODIES are functioning, not a Body type, a Physical Body can be a Spiritual “functioning” Physical Body Mike.44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.  If there is a natural body, there is also a…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Kerwin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 1 month ago

    T,Those that follow the true way of Christ are the children of the Word because they are born of it.Jesus and John the Baptist were conceived and born of Wisdom because they are her children.We even are told that Jesus grew more mature as a child of Wisdom; as he grew in wisdom.Do you understand this way of speaking of the relationship of the wise…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 04 2012,16:53)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,18:15)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 04 2012,02:43)T,There are two passages that speak of sleep in the ground; and one of those explicitly state it is the body that sleeps.  There are no passages that explicitly state the soul sleeps.  The soul departs the body and goes to Sheol; and so i…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Kerwin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 1 month ago

    T,Your words reveal that you do not understand that when “children” is replaced by “conceived and born” the meaning does not change.1 Peter 1:23King James Version (KJV)23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.Birth is when something is revealed.Conception is when it…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,18:15)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 04 2012,02:43)T,There are two passages that speak of sleep in the ground; and one of those explicitly state it is the body that sleeps.  There are no passages that explicitly state the soul sleeps.  The soul departs the body and goes to Sheol; and so is not found with the body. Jesus is s…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Kerwin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,18:18)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 04 2012,02:50)T,Jesus and John the Baptist are revealed to have been conceived and born of Wisdom because they are wise; and so exist in her form.  The form of Wisdom in them makes Wisdom known to those that observe them.Kwere is that scripture so I may believe what you say,???T,We are…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Kerwin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 1 month ago

    T,Jesus and John the Baptist are revealed to have been conceived and born of Wisdom because they are wise; and so exist in her form. The form of Wisdom in them makes Wisdom known to those that observe them.

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    T,There are two passages that speak of sleep in the ground; and one of those explicitly state it is the body that sleeps.  There are no passages that explicitly state the soul sleeps.  The soul departs the body and goes to Sheol; and so is not found with the body. Jesus is stating that Lazarus' body sleeps because his soul departed and could not b…

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    T,Jesus acts, speaks, and thinks as he is carried along by the Spirit; while the prophets merely spoke.When you look as Jesus you see Jehovah's actions and hear his words.In this way you see Jehovah.

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,04:46)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 03 2012,15:36)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 02 2012,06:20)T,A better answer than your last.Job 7:21King James Version (KJV)21 And why dost thou not pardon my transgression, and take away my iniquity? for now shall I sleep in the dust; and thou shalt seek me in the morning, but I shall not…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,04:50)KQuote I can see Jehovah in Jesus using the same words  why ??? because their is no other way to address men ???if you can see Jehovah God almighty in Jesus Christ ,you must have a vision problemT,In this case it is no vision problem; but instead it is seeing Jehovah, who is invisible, as one sees the wind. John…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 02 2012,06:20)T,A better answer than your last.Job 7:21King James Version (KJV)21 And why dost thou not pardon my transgression, and take away my iniquity? for now shall I sleep in the dust; and thou shalt seek me in the morning, but I shall not be.Daniel 12:2King James Version (KJV)2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 02 2012,09:39)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 02 2012,20:33)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 02 2012,05:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 02 2012,09:27)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 31 2012,21:00)There are flames that destroy a soul and therefore there may also be flames that torment it; as well as water to comfort it.Fair enough.  :)Mike,kerwinI agree ,but…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Kerwin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 1 month ago

    T,* I brought up Matthew 11:18-19 in order to begin to answer your earlier question.* Just as you summarize, I did base my understanding on Jesus' words.* I do not follow why you do not agree that John the Baptist and Jesus were conceived and born of Wisdom.

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 02 2012,05:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 02 2012,09:27)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 31 2012,21:00)There are flames that destroy a soul and therefore there may also be flames that torment it; as well as water to comfort it.Fair enough.  :)Mike,kerwinI agree ,but what is the flames or fire,stands for and what is the water stand for in…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Kerwin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 27 2012,06:53)KQuote I believe that the spirit of God is called God’s only begotten and is his creative force as well as being his spirit of love preexisted the existence of Jesus a human being, favored of God.  I believe Jesus inherited the title of only begotten when the Spirit came to dwell in him directly.   I bel…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Kerwin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 1 month ago

    T,John 3:17-21King James Version (KJV)17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.19 And this is the condemnation,…[Read more]

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    T,A better answer than your last.Job 7:21King James Version (KJV)21 And why dost thou not pardon my transgression, and take away my iniquity? for now shall I sleep in the dust; and thou shalt seek me in the morning, but I shall not be.Daniel 12:2King James Version (KJV)2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Kerwin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 1 month ago

    T,Are your words in agreement with Jesus'?Matthew 13:10-16King James Version (KJV)10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 01 2012,10:33)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 01 2012,17:24)T,You ask me to reveal Scriptures to you but you do not believe them; for if you did then you would not need them revealed to you as you would already know them.  My time is limited and I do not see why I use what time I have on going over something that the other person…[Read more]

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