Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2012,19:30)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 10 2012,03:13)Wakeup,Galatians 1:16King James Version (KJV)16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:Who is God's Son in Paul?Is it Jesus or the Spirit of Christ?We are elsewhere taught that only the Spirit of…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 11 2012,07:05)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 11 2012,15:42)T,God promised those that hunger and thirst for righteousness that they would be filled and Jesus instructed us to seek to be filled food and water of Jehovah's righteousness and his kingdom.   Those that hunger and thirst will seek and those that seek will find.  Read w…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 10 2012,19:23)Kerwin………..an unabridged dictionary is better, becasue over time our present dictionary's have reshaped the meaning of some words over time. Like faith for instance, it appears in our present dictionaries as a form of supposition without any need of real evidence required, but we know the Bible says…[Read more]

T,God promised those that hunger and thirst for righteousness that they would be filled and Jesus instructed us to seek to be filled food and water of Jehovah's righteousness and his kingdom. Those that hunger and thirst will seek and those that seek will find. Read what I have previously written as one that seeks such food and drink.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 09 2012,21:52)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 08 2012,19:31)T8,The literal word interpreted as “natural” is soulish.What do you mean by, “the literal word”?    “Soulish” is one man's definition of the Greek word, and creates more questions than it answers, ie:  What does “soulish” even mean?The NET scholars say the Greek word “p…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2012,19:37)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 10 2012,03:04)T,I am following Jesus' example and speaking of Wisdom as if she were a person. This method of speaking confuses some; but it has a purpose or Jesus would not use it. I use it hopes that my readers will begin to understand the way language is used in certain parts of…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 08 2012,20:34)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 09 2012,02:52)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 07 2012,18:00)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 08 2012,02:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 07 2012,04:44)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 05 2012,22:14)Mike,That is not a literal translation as soulish body is the one that is buried.I have never heard of any such thing as a…[Read more]

Wakeup,Galatians 1:16King James Version (KJV)16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:Who is God's Son in Paul?Is it Jesus or the Spirit of Christ?We are elsewhere taught that only the Spirit of God knows the deep things of God.

T,I am following Jesus' example and speaking of Wisdom as if she were a person. This method of speaking confuses some; but it has a purpose or Jesus would not use it. I use it in hopes that my readers will begin to understand the way language is used in certain parts of Scripture.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2012,21:53)Charles and Kerwin,Although you guys both have different biased reasons for claiming that nonsensical things make sense, the fact remains that you are both still claiming that the nonsensical makes sense, in order to force the scriptures to fit around your personal doctrines.Let's suppose God is made up of…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 09 2012,06:30)The body is dead without the soul. The soul is dead without the spirit.God can destroy both soul and body forever. In fact this is the Second Death. The soul and the spirit is like bone and the marrow.When God breathed (spirit) into Adam, he became a living soul.His soul was not alive before that and the body was…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2012,21:42)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 08 2012,02:49)Mike,The soul is what gives the flesh life at this time; the Spirit is what gives creation life after the resurrection.Flesh is also used as an idiom; as your sources tell us, but was not used in 1  Corinthians 15:44 & 46.Kerwin, In 1 Cor 15, Paul answers these questions: Ho…[Read more]

T,It means that the Words and Works of the children of Wisdom are full of Wisdom. In this way they are the pattern of their mother; just as a human child is of his mother, but not physically.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2012,09:48)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 06 2012,23:05)The Holy Spirit is part of God Most High……So then the Holy Spirit ISN'T actually God Most High Himself, like you've often claimed?  Didn't think so.  So let's re-do John 1:14 for you once more:And A PART OF GOD was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld the glory o…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 07 2012,18:00)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 08 2012,02:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 07 2012,04:44)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 05 2012,22:14)Mike,That is not a literal translation as soulish body is the one that is buried.I have never heard of any such thing as a “soulish body”, Kerwin.  Could you explain what it is you're talking…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2012,08:04)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 07 2012,02:29)Just something I learned when looking at the ancient Greek behind the English translations.Helps Wordstudies:Quote 5591 psyxikós (an adjective, derived from 5590 /psyxḗ, “soul, natural identity”) – properly, soulish, i.e. what is natural, as it relates to physical (t…[Read more]

T,I provided the Lake as an example to demonstrate that it is not always true that a thing may both come from something and yet be in it. As you state the children of Wisdom come from her. Never the less she remains in them revealed by their words and works.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 07 2012,04:44)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 05 2012,22:14)Mike,That is not a literal translation as soulish body is the one that is buried.I have never heard of any such thing as a “soulish body”, Kerwin.  Could you explain what it is you're talking about?Mike,Just something I learned when looking at the ancient Greek behind the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 06 2012,17:55)kQuote We even are told that Jesus grew more mature as a child of Wisdom; as he grew in wisdom.HOW COULD SOMEONE BE OF AND BE INSOME THING AT THE SAME TIME T,Wisdom, like God's Spirit, does not grow less when she gives of herself to her children. Instead her gift brings them within her as they become wise.It…[Read more]

Quote (J_47-2 @ Sep. 06 2012,10:59)Kerwin,I'm new to this site and I haven't read this entire thread (just skimming).Your last comments sound odd to me. They are in keeping with the teachings of Theophilus in mid-second century. Do you believe Sophia (Wisdom) to be the same as Pneuma (Spirit)? Is she twin of Logos? Mother of Christ?Just…[Read more]