kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years ago
Miaa,
I am going to address John 8:58 because most translations choose an interpretation that is friendly to their viewpoint instead of relying on readers to come to their own conclusion.
I am not sure if “I am” is even proper grammar in the sentence. It is possible since it is also written “I am with you always…”
This is the best…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years ago
Miia,
Kerwin, I have studied the Greek; and I even reached the same conclusion as you (only because it’s what I wanted to believe). But something doesn’t fit – and you know that. You have to force it.
I do not see where the idea that Jesus is speaking of the Spirit of God as him as forced in any of the verses you mentioned previously. If you b…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years ago
Nick,
Once again I will point out that the new covenant is superior to the old.
The Spirit is the lens by which the Spiritual human analyses. God tells us to test the Spirit; why do you doubt.
If a person cannot determine if the Spirit is from God or not then they are blind and need eyes to see and ears to hear.
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years ago
Nick,
Does not Ecclesiastes teach that the spirit of man goes upwards while those of the beasts go down into the earth?
No, it does not say that. It says “Who knows…” and then that.
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years ago
942767,
I can see that as Philo of Alexandria refereed to the image of God as being the Logos; which he in turn claim was the qualities of God.
I also know that beasts are also called living soul and man is superior to the beasts because he has been made in the image and likeness of God. Given that Genesis only speaks of how man was made like…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years ago
1 Corinthians 15:45Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
What does Paul mean “it is written” that the last Adam was made a quickening spirit since it is not written unless the last Adam is the breath of God.
In Genesis…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years ago
Gene,
KERWIN….I agree with your assessment, but by leaving it out does give the prexistences an edge, that is probably why a trinitarian translator left it out. IMO
If it was left out then it was left out by a scribe in the first few centuries after the formation of the new covenant. Certain translators may have found the omission favorable t…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years ago
Nick,
Do you not believe God can do this?
Not only can he do it but he tells the ones under the Law he will do it. For it is written:
Ezekiel 18:21-22Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely…
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years ago
Gene,
You left off part of JOHN 3:12. IT SAYS “the son of man, “who is “IN” heaven.”
There are Koine Greek manuscripts that have these words and those that do not have them.
I think they should be in but I am not skilled enough to discuss the merits of Koine Greek manuscripts beyond a few simple rules the experts themselves are aware of.
The…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years ago
Miia,
John 6.38
“I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me”.Jesus is using a mystical wording to hide the truth from those who were not diligent in seeking it so you must be careful in translating is words or in many cases the words of Scripture in general.
We learn this from his words in John 16:…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years ago
Miia,
Kerwin, I think the word of the LORD who came and spoke in the OT was the word of God in John 1.1 who became flesh.
The word spoke in the same way it both increased and prevailed in Acts 19:20 as more people heard and obeyed its words. Acts 12:24 is similarly worded.
The word came to Emanuel means he begins to speak the word of God as…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years ago
Miia,
The word came saying. Then the word became flesh.
Could you clarify the idea you are trying to share?
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years ago
Ed,
“The Word” of God that came to the Prophets was God’s “HolySpirit”
Is that how you word the idea expressed by these words of Peter?
2 Peter 1:21Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years ago
Nick,
Why do you keep repeating the words of John’s baptism?
Don’t you know baptism in Jesus’ name is different?
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years ago
Nick,
His sentence was longer than what you wrote.
John baptized for the forgiveness of sins. Jesus’ immersion is more powerful which is why Peter added the words “and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit”. After all John teaches us Jesus immerses with the Spirit.
I know that Peter also states:
1 Peter 1:14-15New English Translation…
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years ago
Nick,
We are saved ” through the washing of the new birth and the renewing of the Holy Spirit” (Titus 3:5)
Which also addresses sin. To be particular, the overcoming of sin.
I also reference Romans 3:19 and another passage in the above post.
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years ago
Nick,
What the old testament says it says to those under the Law but there are better things for those under the new covenant.
kerwin replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years ago
Ed,
Since I believe the Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ the answer is also no.
kerwin replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years ago
Nick,
It is written to test the Spirit of what you hear. Why would I who claim to be only a student be an exception?
kerwin replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years ago
Nick,
Seek understanding.
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