Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,01:41)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 21 2013,18:36)Hebrews 2:14King James Version (KJV)14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;The scripture you posted…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,02:08)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2013,13:13)T,Quote Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’“A man”, not an angel.And?    No one here denies that Jesus was, at that time, a man.Mike,He is calling Jesus “one”and then stating he is:The human that…[Read more]

Mike,Even if you ignore the contradictions and answer yes to all four you are supporting the claim that “made flesh” is equivalent to “in the flesh”. A claim you previously found odious.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,01:50)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 21 2013,22:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2013,06:06)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 21 2013,14:00)T8,If Jesus came in the flesh then he did not transform to flesh.The spirit being Jesus Christ was transformed by God into the flesh being Jesus Christ.That being the case, we can say Jesus BECAME…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2013,09:23)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2013,13:45)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 22 2013,19:52)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2013,11:13)If you do then you communicate it poorly.k or you are deaf,and blind T,”EMPHATICALLY” is an erroneous belief as it makes more than one god creators.  That's not even close to being true, Kerwin.  The f…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 23 2013,06:46)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,06:34)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 23 2013,05:28)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,01:21)T,Quote Lk 24:49 I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.”The “what” is the Spirit and Jesus did not have the a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 23 2013,06:37)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,06:32)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 23 2013,05:59)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,01:13)T,Quote Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’“A man”, not an angel.Kyou are not truthful ,why you only use the first par…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 23 2013,05:25)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,00:58)T,Quote Mt 1:20 But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. Do you believe Jesus was conceived i…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 23 2013,05:28)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,01:21)T,Quote Lk 24:49 I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.”The “what” is the Spirit and Jesus did not have the authority to send it until he went away, John 16:7.Kwhat “spirit” are you t…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 23 2013,05:59)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,01:13)T,Quote Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’“A man”, not an angel.Kyou are not truthful ,why you only use the first part of the scripture are you afraid to comment on the second part “”” has sur…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,01:42)Kerwin and Gene, you have a lot more patience than me.i am trying.2beesee,Jesus taught us not to worry. Just learn and speak what you learn and let God handle the stubbornness of the hearts of others.

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 22 2013,19:52)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2013,11:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2013,06:59)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2013,18:52)The word “EL-o-heem” defines as:1. God2. Angels3. Judges4. LeadersSo then when Jehovah says there are no elohim besides Him, He must be speaking EMPHATICALLY – especially since you just gave us all a…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 22 2013,22:06)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2013,11:54)Quote (2besee @ Feb. 22 2013,02:35)Whatever Gnostics is or was, it must have crept in and grew.2beesee,it evolved and adapted.Kerwin……That is right the false teaching of Jesus being a God was introduced into the church by the Gnostic's and was fought against By John…[Read more]

T,Quote Lk 24:49 I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.”The “what” is the Spirit and Jesus did not have the authority to send it until he went away, John 16:7.

T,Quote Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’“A man”, not an angel.

T,Quote Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.I have not looked at the Greek behind these words but this version does noes not support the claim that Jesus was the first created by Jehovah. “over” gives the context and Jesus was given authority over all things in heaven and on earth previously to the time…[Read more]

T,Quote Mt 1:20 But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. Do you believe Jesus was conceived in Mary as a gift of the Spirit or that he instead was a transformed angel t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2013,06:59)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2013,18:52)The word “EL-o-heem” defines as:1. God2. Angels3. Judges4. LeadersSo then when Jehovah says there are no elohim besides Him, He must be speaking EMPHATICALLY – especially since you just gave us all a list of many other elohim in scripture.Case closed, Ed.  I don't have time…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2013,06:06)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 21 2013,14:00)T8,If Jesus came in the flesh then he did not transform to flesh.The spirit being Jesus Christ was transformed by God into the flesh being Jesus Christ.That being the case, we can say Jesus BECAME flesh.  We can say Jesus WAS MADE flesh.  We can say Jesus “has come in the f…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 22 2013,02:35)Whatever Gnostics is or was, it must have crept in and grew.2beesee,it evolved and adapted.