T,Quote you mean that his mother tougth him all he knew to argue with the doctors of the law in the temple hummmHe was on God's business at the temple but God's business for his parents was to bring him up as he grew in wisdom and statue.Quote so it is more NOMINAL THAN REALI believe Seed is symbolical just like it is when Isaac is called…[Read more]

Miike,Quote And the fact is that although Jesus' fleshly manifestation was of the lineage of David, he is by no means the son of David.Two identical twins are born, having the same genotype the first fathers a child.  Is that child the son of the second twin?To fulfill God's promise the flesh must be made from David's Seed.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2013,04:52)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 11 2013,15:12)Yes, Jesus agrees with the Pharisees but he uses their answer to point out that the promised Messiah is greater than David.Actually Jesus corrects the Pharisees, Kerwin.  He does not agree with them, but points our their error.It is for this reason that they could not reply…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,06:07)T,Quote but this could not be done through a man born of the flesh ,because no man can save another says scriptures from his own sins or others sins ,because all men are born short from God's glory ,THIS ARE FACTS ,so how could God save humanity and yet use the flesh You have the idea of a man saving humanity and…[Read more]

T,Quote What can you find in scriptures that support some type of honor to Mary the mother of God,s son,did Christ said anything about herAn angel did and so did Elizabeth when prophesying but Christ said that only those do God's will are honored.Quote The only thing Mary gives to the son of God is flesh..Yes, that and bringing him up as a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 11 2013,23:20)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,21:52)Romans 9:3Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:Ephesians 6:5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 11 2013,23:10)Kerwin,41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 “What do you think about the Messiah? Whose son is he?”“The son of David,” they replied.43 He said to them, “How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him ‘Lord’? For he says,44 “‘The Lord said to my Lord:    “Sit at…[Read more]

Mike,Quote So according to WHAT was Jesus the ROOT of David?This is a different conversation.  Root can mean any parent in a family tree and the Root means the most important one.  Jesus had no children of his flesh but he is greater than even David.Root is also any individual or sub-group in an overall group that teaches a doctrine.  Jesus ta…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 10 2013,22:34)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 09 2013,16:18)Mike,No, I cannot conceive of a sound and valid argument to support your teaching “that the Word being made flesh DIDN'T contradict the flesh being the seed of David”.I realize that you can't conceive of it, Kerwin.  That's why I've offered to painstakingly show it to you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 10 2013,22:10)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 09 2013,16:07)That is complex though not worth debating as the bottom line is that Paul also speaks of his brethren according to the flesh.It's not complex, but exactly what Paul taught in Romans 4.Kerwin, suffice to say that the NKJV has translated it correctly:  What then shall we say…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 10 2013,22:34)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,17:02)“worshiped.  There are many gods in heaven and on earth whose job it is to represent the one true God.  Those representatives are not worthy to be worshiped and the loyal ones are disgusted that anyone would think of doing so, much less do so.god is just a word, and is used to c…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,07:14)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 11 2013,06:55)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,07:10)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,06:07)T,Quote but this could not be done through a man born of the flesh ,because no man can save another says scriptures from his own sins or others sins ,because all men are born short from God's glory…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 11 2013,07:09)Does Kerwin deny that Jesus is the son of God?If so, then he needs to reconsider because it is antichrists who deny the Father and the son.T8,Jesus is the Son of God, as of the Spirit.

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,07:10)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,06:07)T,Quote but this could not be done through a man born of the flesh ,because no man can save another says scriptures from his own sins or others sins ,because all men are born short from God's glory ,THIS ARE FACTS ,so how could God save humanity and yet use the flesh You…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 10 2013,06:57)And so, just because these people thought he was “a god” does that mean that he in reality is “a god”?  It was God who through His power delivered the Apostle Paul from death.Love in Christ,Marty942767,They did not mistake Paul for one to be worshiped but instead saw him as a great one, which frankly he was as…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,07:13)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,06:32)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,05:02)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,04:44)Marty,The Koine Greek and Englis seems to loose some of the Hebrew meaning as there is only one true gods(elohim).  In English we try to regain some of it by capitalization.  God is God and not a g…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,07:06)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,06:16)T,Romans 3:23-24Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)23 for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Jesus is not part of the group called all as he the one in who the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,07:10)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,06:07)T,Quote but this could not be done through a man born of the flesh ,because no man can save another says scriptures from his own sins or others sins ,because all men are born short from God's glory ,THIS ARE FACTS ,so how could God save humanity and yet use the flesh You…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,07:01)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,06:10)T,Quote this is why Christ has no Father according to the flesh but only an adopted one Joseph, Christ could not be receiving anything from his mother according to the flesh (Mary was an surrogate mother ),because his true mother was in heavenThe flesh is made from David's…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,05:02)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,04:44)Marty,The Koine Greek and Englis seems to loose some of the Hebrew meaning as there is only one true gods(elohim).  In English we try to regain some of it by capitalization.  God is God and not a god.  A god is gods representative, whether loyal or not.KERWINQuote A god is…[Read more]