Gene,I am attempting to establish a database of passages that support the idea Jesus was made of Mary.I can see where 1 John 4:3 supports that since human beings are human souls that come in human flesh.

T8,If a language was spoken the Christians speaking that particular language would have desired versions in it as soon as they could get them. I would not be surprised if these versions occurs soon after the original was written.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 15 2013,03:53)Terricca………..Well as for you, your clock it never started if you ask me, so you play with the deck you have no matter how many cards are missing it appears to me and others here I might add. Your four years of confusion and distortion of scriptures is all you have brought here . I was sent another…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 15 2013,09:03)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 15 2013,03:53)Terricca………..Well as for you, your clock it never started if you ask me, so you play with the deck you have no matter how many cards are missing it appears to me and others here I might add. Your four years of confusion and distortion of scriptures is all you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2013,06:37)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 13 2013,13:36)There is but one true Lord.Are the other lords false?I'll take that point a step farther:The same writer that said, for us there is but one God, the Father also said, and one Lord, Jesus Christ.Is Jesus Christ REALLY the ONLY Lord we as Christians have?  YES or NO?The only…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 15 2013,09:09)Quote The definition of polytheism is “The worship of or belief in more than one god.”Does the bible anywhere condemn “belief in more than one god.”?Wj, you believe in Jesus, who you would call godYou believe in the father, who you would call god. Some would say that makes you a polytheist.  The bible does…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2013,06:51)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 13 2013,22:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2013,06:42)Kerwin,Our heavenly masters are not only master of our spirits, but masters of all of us – including our physical bodies.  End of story.Mike,So how does that go with the authorities Scriptures state are our masters according to the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2013,06:48)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 13 2013,22:18)Mike,The manner is his flesh.The Pharisees EXPECTED the Messiah to be flesh, Kerwin.  So “flesh” is not the correct answer to Jesus' question.  In fact, you're not even in the ballpark.Perhaps you should copy your friends the Pharisees, and just remain silent like they d…[Read more]

T,Quote KI believe that Christ preexisted and that is why he could argue with anyone at 12 but he also knew that his time was not yet there to show the way ,and so went with his so called parents and stay put so to say until that time of do the will of his fatherAnd yet Scripture states the he, as is common to 12 year olds, grew in both statue and…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 14 2013,10:37)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 14 2013,00:12)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 13 2013,20:14)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 13 2013,13:14)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 13 2013,06:23)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 13 2013,05:47)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 13 2013,04:57)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 13 2013,01:13)T,You are assuming that Jesus' choice to use “your”…[Read more]

T,I already pointed out that Proverbs 8 is not speaking of Jesus as it is not By Jesus Christ kings reign,and princes decree justice.and it isBy godly Wisdom kings reign,and princes decree justice.Jesus is the Prince of Princes and King of kings but he is not Wisdom.  He reigns by it and decrees justice by it.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2013,08:38)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 14 2013,19:39)Jammin,So you believe “the word” in scripture should be translated the Christ.That's a silly argument, Kerwin.  99% of the time, “word” simply refers to a spoken or written word in scripture.It is only a few times that it refers to the main spokesman of God.So go ahead and…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Aug. 15 2013,06:44)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 14 2013,04:57)Quote (jammin @ Aug. 13 2013,18:00)kerwinnot yet done? cant you accept that the word in john 1.1 is the son>? pls make your own bible. why are you making this hard for you>Jammin,Can't you believe the Word is the Logos of God?i believe the Word is the logos of God and that logos…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 14 2013,10:49)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 14 2013,00:28)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 13 2013,20:50)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 13 2013,13:19)T,I did not find any passage that states Jesus came from the side of his Father.  If you could please post it I would appreciate it.KJN 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw…[Read more]

Gene,It seems you believe 1 John 4:3 in some way supports the teaching that Jesus was born of Mary. Am I correct?1 John 4:3Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)3 and every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2013,06:42)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 13 2013,01:11)Is is better to have a spirit that is mastered by God or by man?Kerwin,Our heavenly masters are not only master of our spirits, but masters of all of us – including our physical bodies.  End of story.Mike,So how does that go with the authorities Scriptures state are our…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2013,06:40)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 12 2013,20:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2013,08:18)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 11 2013,22:30)Mike,The only error the Pharisees made was an incomplete answer as Paul answers Jesus words by stating Jesus is made from the seed of David, according to the flesh.Their answer:  The son of…[Read more]

Gene,Quote The word God requires two thing to be true, one it has to have power and two it must be worshiped and obeyed with full faith in, by the person calling it a God of any kind .Quote capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: asa : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universeb…[Read more]

T,Quote JN 16:27 for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me and have believed that I came forth from the Father.We already know Jesus was made of a woman and that woman is the seed of David. His flesh was made from the seed of David.His flesh therefore came from Mary and did not come forth from the Father.So it is his spirit…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 13 2013,23:50)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 13 2013,23:29)To All………..If God the Father is the “ONLY” “TRUE” God, then all other have to be “FALSE” Gods, Just that simple, Just believe what Jesus said, and He never said he was a GOD, never or ever will. IMO, All who make other Gods are Idolaters.  God the Father…[Read more]