Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 20 2013,21:27)Kerwin,I'm not sure anymore what we're even talking about.  I thought I was showing you that the earth was already there when God said, “Let there be light”, and that the angels must have also been there since they shouted for joy when God laid the foundations of the earth.I can't make heads or tails out of…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Oct. 20 2013,12:16)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 20 2013,01:41)Jammin,Quote what??? GOD is an aspect of the WORD? where did you get that??that is not written in greek bible.make your own bible and revised john 1.1 LOLI obtained it in the way I said I did.Since you missed it, I will go over it in more detail.1 John 4:8 & 16 both state “God…[Read more]

Carmel,Quote AND THE SON'S SPIRIT, THE WORD, EMANATED FROM THE FATHER, AND LIGHT WAS MADE.So you are basically claiming the Word is the Holy Spirit.You previously claimed the Jesus' soul was the Holy Spirit.Quote THE HOLY SPIRIT MOVED,THE FATHER SPOKE,AND HIS WORD THE SON'S SPIRIT BECAME LIGHT!I agree the Spirit moved and God spoke and then…[Read more]

Carmel,Genesis 1:1-2Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. There was no light of any kind at that time and I doubt Satan was around yet as there was…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 20 2013,02:21)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 20 2013,02:13)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 20 2013,01:36)Mike,Quote or who laid its cornerstone—7 while the morning stars sang together   and all the angels shouted for joy?It sounds like it is not the foundations but the cornerstone that is being laid as the stars sing and the sons shout.I hope to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 20 2013,02:13)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 20 2013,01:36)Mike,Quote or who laid its cornerstone—7 while the morning stars sang together   and all the angels shouted for joy?It sounds like it is not the foundations but the cornerstone that is being laid as the stars sing and the sons shout.I hope to look into it some more.Note one so…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 20 2013,01:36)Mike,Quote or who laid its cornerstone—7 while the morning stars sang together   and all the angels shouted for joy?It sounds like it is not the foundations but the cornerstone that is being laid as the stars sing and the sons shout.I hope to look into it some more.Note one source for corner stone.Mike,This pa…[Read more]

Mike,The heavens were there as well.

Mike,Quote or who laid its cornerstone—7 while the morning stars sang together   and all the angels shouted for joy?It sounds like it is not the foundations but the cornerstone that is being laid as the stars sing and the sons shout.I hope to look into it some more.Note one source for corner stone.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 20 2013,01:06)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 19 2013,12:59)Mike,Quote I reject these two as unworthy of a response, since there is no scripture that says spirit beings can't touch, be touched, or eat.You have claimed that before but you also have not answered my point I raised about Jesus given evidence he was not a spirit in…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 20 2013,00:56)Mike,Thanks for those two passages.Mike,I think the word is ruach in both cases and can be used to mean a:Quote e. disembodied being (dubious, Di Du breath of wind): וְרוּחַ עַלמָּֿנַי יַחֲלֹף Job 4:15. which clearly seems to be the case in Job 4:15.You on the other hand claim angels have bodies.Isaiah is more…[Read more]

Mike,Quote I reject these two as unworthy of a response, since there is no scripture that says spirit beings can't touch, be touched, or eat.You have claimed that before but you also have not answered my point I raised about Jesus given evidence he was not a spirit in Luke.

Mike,Thanks for those two passages.

I have a third article about this same discovery that covers other issues.  The issue I am pointing out is the sectarian splits within the scientific comunity over doctrine based on their interpetations of the data. David Lordkipanidze and his team seem to belong to one of these denomination while those belonging to another object to their…[Read more]

Mike,I tend to agree with those who claim the angels were made on the second day as light was created on the first day and the angels would have been unable to see anything without it.  They are creature made in heaven so they could not have been made before heaven.Job 38:4-12Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)4 Where wast thou when I laid the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 20 2013,00:01)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 19 2013,11:50)Both Jesus and the children are said to share in flesh in blood though different words are used that mean the same thing just as partake and take part are synonyms.  Both parties are made by God.  “Took on” seems to contradict the idea expressed in the words “was made” w…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 19 2013,23:52)I disagree.  I see no scripture where a man was called a god by an inspired writer of scripture.The fact that pagans and others considered men to be gods is of no consequence.  When an inspired writer of scripture said “god”, he was talking about powerful spirit beings – not men.(Sometimes, he was talking a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 19 2013,21:27)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 15 2013,20:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 16 2013,07:33)…there is no conflict whatsoever between made in the likeness of a human” and partook in flesh.Mike,The AKJV “took” verse could support my claim that Jesus did not take on the form of an angel.  It disagrees with your claim he did.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 19 2013,21:21)Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 18 2013,19:28)JULIUS CEASAR WAS A GOD TO THE ROMANSAnd Beelzebub (Satan) was the god of Ekron – even according to the words of Jehovah Himself.Angels and demons are also called gods in scripture.  So perhaps it was these “lesser gods” to whom David referred in the psalm Pierre…[Read more]

Mike,Quote But if you read about the battle of Ai in Joshua 8, you'll see that even Jehovah counseled Joshua to use means of deception to conquer Ai.  God is the one who told Joshua to use a tricky ambush technique to conquer them, right?If it was only deception I would agree but a lying prophecy is a false prophecy and it is a desire of the…[Read more]