Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 23 2013,05:21)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 22 2013,17:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 23 2013,04:58)Quote (2besee @ Oct. 22 2013,02:28)I ask you this:Is Mike's 'mind', and Mike's 'word', and Mike's 'spirit' other separate beings – or is Mike “one”?And I believe I answered it already with an analogy about going to the store.Would…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 23 2013,05:17)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 22 2013,02:48)You are in error in your word use.  Explicit is when it is written in the very words which is clearly not the case. From Dictionary.com:ex·plic·it   adjective  1. fully and clearly expressed or demonstrated; leaving nothing merely implied; unequivocal:I didn't see a defi…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 23 2013,07:03)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 22 2013,17:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 21 2013,05:33)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 17 2013,11:19)I point out that your insistence that you go by the literal interpretation of the statement “the word was made flesh” put you in conflict with a literal interpretation of the words ” Jesus came in the…[Read more]

Mike,Net notes chooses to translate pneuma to ghost because they acknowledge a ghost cannot either be touched or eat and in so narrowing the meanings they avoid the issue we are addressing from coming up between those relying on their translation.  The choice of translating it to spirit keeps the vagueness of the original.

Mike,Quote The NET scholars don't think the disciples were still in actual disbelief……. and therefore, the eating wasn't a “proof” of anything.So these net scholars are saying that “they did not believe” does not mean “they did not believe” because of their reason for not believing. That does not sound like a credible claim by whoever voices…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 23 2013,07:05)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 22 2013,17:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 21 2013,05:39)Like I've said, I don't require ONLY a YES or a NO.  You are free to explain your YES or NO in as many words as you like………………… AS LONG AS THE ANSWERS START WITH A “YES” OR A “NO”.Mike,Oops! Sorry, I thought you did…[Read more]

Mike,I have heard the claim that after Jesus went to so much effort to proof he was not a spirit but flesh and bone he then changed into a spirit. Wakeup is only trying to speculate on a reason  that an absurd claim might be reasonable.  What Jesus was doing it giving proofs he was alive and not a ghost, who could not be touched or eat.  As far as…[Read more]

Wakeup,Quote Luke 24:39Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. Spirits do not have flesh and bone.Is Jesus a spirit?Jesus has flesh and bone after his resurrection.Therefore Jesus cannot be a spirit.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 21 2013,05:33)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 17 2013,11:19)I point out that your insistence that you go by the literal interpretation of the statement “the word was made flesh” put you in conflict with a literal interpretation of the words ” Jesus came in the flesh”. Can you explain how your interpretations of those two passages are…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 21 2013,05:39)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 17 2013,11:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 17 2013,06:05)I've asked 9 very simple YES or NO questions.  If and when you list all nine, with a YES or NO answer beside each one, we will continue.(And by YES or NO, I do not prohibit further explanations as to WHY an answer was either YES or NO.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 23 2013,04:58)Quote (2besee @ Oct. 22 2013,02:28)I ask you this:Is Mike's 'mind', and Mike's 'word', and Mike's 'spirit' other separate beings – or is Mike “one”?And I believe I answered it already with an analogy about going to the store.Would anyone ever say, “2B went to the market, and his word went WITH him.” ?Mike,You…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Oct. 22 2013,13:15)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 22 2013,09:44)Jammin,Quote ^ Harris, Murray J. ;Jesus as God: The New Testament Use of Theos in Reference to Jesus, 1992. <Murray J. Harris. Baker Books, pub. SBN 0801021952, p. 69Quote “ is clear that in the translation “the Word was God,” the term God is being used to denote his natur…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 21 2013,05:35)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 17 2013,11:32)So please tell me, if spirits can be touched and eat then how would both of those proofs have worked to convince the disciples that Jesus was not a spirit?Again, already answered, Kerwin………… LOTS of times.What Jesus actually taught:  Spirits don't have flesh and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 22 2013,05:33)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 21 2013,17:19)Mike,In the beginning God created both the heavens and the earth.  There were no angels before the heavens were created.Kerwin,This is what I believe – as it is explicitly taught in scripture:The heavens and the earth were existing when God said, “Let there be light”.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 20 2013,21:50)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 19 2013,12:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 20 2013,00:01)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 19 2013,11:50)Both Jesus and the children are said to share in flesh in blood though different words are used that mean the same thing just as partake and take part are synonyms.  Both parties are made by God.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 22 2013,04:44)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 20 2013,23:11)There is nothing to say the angels were there before heaven and earth were created or before God said let there be light.Kerwin,Why?  Why must you so consistently read what the scriptures say, and then believe the exact opposite?   Are you saying that God created MOST OF t…[Read more]

Jammin,Quote ^ Harris, Murray J. ;Jesus as God: The New Testament Use of Theos in Reference to Jesus, 1992. <Murray J. Harris. Baker Books, pub. SBN 0801021952, p. 69Quote “ is clear that in the translation “the Word was God,” the term God is being used to denote his nature or essence, and not his person. But in normal English usage “God”…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 21 2013,20:11)Quote (jammin @ Oct. 21 2013,23:08)kerwin, about the translation the Word was divine, you can check what moffat said. he  said the Word was divine. he did not say the word but Word. it is capital W. do you know the reason behind it why they translated is as Word ant not word?? bec that is a title or name…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 21 2013,12:04)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 21 2013,11:13)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 20 2013,22:12)kerwinQuote Conversely, Thomas B. Talbott points to “God is Love” (1 John 4:8 and 1 John 4:16), meaning not merely that God “happens to love,” but rather that love is an essential aspect of God. Talbott uses this to defend Universalism…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 20 2013,22:12)kerwinQuote Conversely, Thomas B. Talbott points to “God is Love” (1 John 4:8 and 1 John 4:16), meaning not merely that God “happens to love,” but rather that love is an essential aspect of God. Talbott uses this to defend Universalism because God must be loving in all God's acts, precluding eternal…[Read more]