Nick,

I have very little information about the infancy and childhood of Jesus.

There is little evidence but there is enough to answer my question.

Terrarica,

Kerwin

you seem not to understand that Christ was anointed for his sacrifice what was the fulfilling of the law for all men sins ,and not for the Jews only of course he came to call on the Jews first ,

you seem to consider only one scripture and so believe in a tiny little truth and believing that now you have it right ? unless you…

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Terrarica,

;your scriptures is only addressed to the Jews ;but Jesus sacrifice was done to /for all men ;

I was not addressing his sacrifice but only the fact that he was anointed to preach the gospel and do miracles.

You are correct if you are stating his mortal ministry was limited to the Jews with a few exceptions. I do not see where it is…[Read more]

Nick,

I have substantiated my claims that Jesus bore the fruit of the Spirit before he was immersed in the Jordon but you choose not to see them.

So which fruit did he not bear?

Was he not at peace with God?
Did have joy in knowing God?
Did he love?
Was he long suffering?
Was he gentle?
Was he good?
Did he have faith?
Was he meek?
Was he…[Read more]

Nick,

Hi KW,

It is not written so human reasoning is proven useless.

The letter of the words you say can be interpretative as true but the spirit is false.

Reasoning based on principles of the Spirit is both sound and valid and there many examples of it in Scripture.

Reasoning based on godless principles is flawed and there are examples of…[Read more]

Terrarica,

1. Scriptural fact- Luke 4:18-19
2. Inductive reasoning based of lack of evidence in Scripture of it occurring earlier. In the desert he was tempted by Satan to perform miracles so there evidence soon afterwards. It is not a certain case as lack of evidence does not prove anything for certain.
3. Inductive reasoning based on the fact God…

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Ed,

None of those passages actually support your claim. If they did I would use them as evidence of my claim that Jesus was born of Spirit by the time he was first tempted of sin. As it is that can be accomplished with other passages.

Of course Jesus was born with his human spirit.

I am more interested in whether you acknowledge Jesus became…[Read more]

Nick,

You are falling back on spewing nonsense because you hold on to what is false. Seek support in Scripture for your teaching and do not ignore those passages that speak against it.

We have established.

1) Jesus was anointed to preach the gospel and do miracles.
2) That anointing was most likely done at the Jordon River.
3) God can sent…[Read more]

Ed,

It is not logos = Holy Spirit.

There is a link between the two that allows one to be swapped for the other but that does not mean they are the same.

You can claim it is equivalent in those cases where it can be swapped out replaced with the other.

Ed,

Those four Chariots sound a lot like the four horsemen of Revelations. I kind of agree with you on the third one but it is traditionally considered the symbol of famine.

Black is death and Red is war.

White symbolizes conquest. In Revelations some regard the rider as being the Anti-Christ though I personally disagree as the age of…[Read more]

Nick,

But your version has a fetus being anointed and later given power

I have seen a few places where anointed is used to mean born of Spirit so I will give you that use of it but there is no reason God would not send his Spirit to anoint Jesus with the Spirit to write his Law on Jesus’ heart and mind at one point and then later send his Spirit…[Read more]

Nick,

I am not offering up evidence that Jesus’ conception is of the Spirit but rather I am using that as evidence in an inductive argument. Inductive when based on solid truth results in solid truths if the reasoning is valid. There are certainly to misuse it but that relies on misusing the evidence as misusing the reasoning is invalid…[Read more]

Nick,

You are just dropping words like “opinion” as malevolent attacks on arguments you disagree with. That action brands you as a false witness. You do not need to do that. What you need to do is be quiet and learn. I tested your claim that “Trying to divide the Spirit into various anointing is folly” and found it false as clearly God sends…[Read more]

Nick,

I walked through it and pointed out why your teaching is wrong. It is the same type of argument Jesus used with the Sadducee and you answer you are no different than an unrepentant Sadducee.

If you were wise you would have instead shown where 1) I erred and your teaching is not broken or 2) admitted you were wrong 3) stated you believed I…[Read more]

@t8,

The Catholic Church has caused great harm to the truth as did the persecutions by the Roman Empire and others. Even the Catholic Church was an action of the Empire and became a beast in its own right. The Roman Empire was most like the beast though it could have been just one an expression of Satan, who is the true Worm. In the New…[Read more]

Nick,

Hi KW,

He was given the fullness of the Spirit.

Trying to divide the Spirit into various anointing is folly.

Anointing is a correlation to what is accomplished by the pouring of oil on the head of priests and kings. Those are in fact separate anointings as no priest was appointed to be a king nor was any king appointed to be a priest.…[Read more]

@t8,

I am a student and seeming not very skilled at being one. Any errors in my words are 100% mine though Satan and his minions certainly do not make it easy. Only the truth comes from God.

@t8,

I do think Paul was using the correlation between the Law and Christ in his teaching but even then it is a loose correlation much like claiming the people of that age were immersed in Moses.

I was not implying you thought anything of the type though I was being sarcastic by interpreting it literally.

I also voiced my thoughts on the…[Read more]

@t8,

FYI

I was responding to the misuse of that passage as it is often used as evidence of the preexistence of Christ.

The bottom line is they did not have Christ or he would not have had to die on the cross. They had the Law of Moses to instruct them on what sin was. It lacked power even though is was of the Spirit of Christ.

Instead, in 1…[Read more]

Nick,

I quoted Scripture that stated that the Law is Spiritual.

I did not tell you anything except that the spiritual food and drink of the children of Israel was the Law of Moses.

Technically I only pointed that out to @t8

I could have said more such as to venture that Moses wrote the Law as he was carried along by the Spirit of Christ.

I…[Read more]