Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,07:31)Okay, just so we have it STRAIGHT this time:Kerwin, do you believe that flesh and BONE can enter the kingdom of God?  YES or NO?Do you believe that flesh and BLOOD can enter the kingdom of God?  YES or NO?Mike,I have my beliefs but I at times set them aside to study.I believe that the term “flesh and blood” i…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16)kerwinwakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup T.Is that not commonsense?The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.What say…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,07:11)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2013,18:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,04:40)Kerwin, is it your understanding that God first FORMED the earth, and then LATER laid the foundations of the earth?  YES or NO?Mike,Yes…………… as Genesis 1 and 2 tells us how the earth was both ordered and given form.Okay.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,06:42)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2013,13:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2013,21:38)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 28 2013,13:40)Mike,Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Verse 1:  When did God ever preside in a huge assembly of human god prophets, and pass judgment on them?I do not believe God is speaking to the prophets who merely convey his…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,06:47)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2013,14:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2013,22:51)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 29 2013,18:58)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,06:50)……..He had glory with God before the world was.Wakeup,…..he was asking God for his glory that God had already prepared for him before the word began.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,04:40)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 29 2013,00:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 29 2013,08:28)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 28 2013,15:26)Mike,The celebration of the Second Temple occurred when/after the foundation was laid by the builders the people celebrated.  Does that seem strange to you?  Not at all.  It WOULD seem strange to le…[Read more]

Wakeup,Quote Genesis 1:18   And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.REPEAT STATEMENT.THE LIGHT WAS ALREADY DEVIDEDFROM DARKNESS,***IN THE FIRST DAY***No,  In this case it is specifically speaking of the division if the night and the darkness being tied with the the m…[Read more]

Wakeup,Quote Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.THIS IS THE EARTHLY HEAVEN,AND THE EARTH.NOT GOD'S KINGDOM IN HEAVEN. So the AV of the KJV is wrong when it states that Heaven was created on the second Night and Day.Can you use reason and so explain where you are coming from?

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,07:35)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2013,06:34)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,01:27)John 17:1   These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:  John 17:5   And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self ***with th…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2013,22:38)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 29 2013,18:34)Wakeup,Jesus had glory that was with God before the beginning of the world.Jesus had not yet been given that glory as he was only then asking to be given it.This is what I meant by “scurrying” and “scampering”, Kerwin.Your first sentence speaks about a glory Jesus HAD, but…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2013,22:51)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 29 2013,18:58)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,06:50)……..He had glory with God before the world was.Wakeup,…..he was asking God for his glory that God had already prepared for him before the word began.  ……….he was foreknown to receive that glory.It's easy to see that Wakeup, in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2013,21:38)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 28 2013,13:40)Mike,Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Verse 1:  When did God ever preside in a huge assembly of human god prophets, and pass judgment on them?I do not believe God is speaking to the prophets who merely convey his word.  He was speaking to the children of Israel who received his word a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2013,23:52)Marty and Gene and Kerwin,I find it ridiculous that this discussion is now encompassing many teachings from many scriptures – when the simple point remains that Jesus couldn't have spoken about a glory HE WAS HAVING before the world began unless he was actually HAVING that glory before the world began.This is…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Dec. 29 2013,11:20)I had been referencing the sorites paradox.  I should have been mentioning the continuum fallacy.David,I did not know what you were speaking of until I looked it up. I am not sure some here would bother.

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,07:12)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2013,12:00)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 29 2013,13:08)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 29 2013,17:11)Wakeup,On the third Night and Day the sun and stars did not shine and the moon did not reflect  light in the sky as they were lighted on the forth Night and Day.  Earth and only night until the the forth N…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 29 2013,13:08)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 29 2013,17:11)Wakeup,On the third Night and Day the sun and stars did not shine and the moon did not reflect  light in the sky as they were lighted on the forth Night and Day.  Earth and only night until the the forth Night and Day as God had not yet appointed a night and day for it.You are c…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,06:50)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2013,11:34)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,01:27)John 17:1   These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:  John 17:5   And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self ***with the gl…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 29 2013,13:06)kQuote He is not the word but he gives flesh to the utterance of God.it does not say in scriptures utterance;but it says THE WORD  or THE SON  or JESUS CHRIST ,T,You obviously are unaware that the word comes out of God's mouth. From what I see you have no idea why Jesus is called by the name of the Word of G…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 29 2013,12:54)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 29 2013,08:52)Quote (jammin @ Dec. 28 2013,20:30)Kerwin,Many versions said christ was the Word in jn1:1 and it supports rev19:13. You said no but until now you have no proof. For you to win, you must publish the king kerwin version hahahaJammin,A word for word translation will not say it…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,01:27)John 17:1   These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:  John 17:5   And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self ***with the glory which I had with thee before the world      was***. HE HAD GLORY…[Read more]