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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Nick,

    You failed to answer my question.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Nick,

    When was ” the creature made subject to vanity”?

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    Ed,

    “the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit” (John 6:63)

    Yes, they are Spiritual, i.e. they have the qualities of spirit. That is Terrarica’s point.

    Here is another one.

    Romans 7:14Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

    Romans 7:6Authorized (King Jam…

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    Ed,

    You implied the words of 2 Corinthians 3:3-6 are the traditions of man.

    Were you instead attempting to intimate Jesus and make a statement that was separate from the context those based on the words within?

    If so then aware of that the traditions of mere humans are flawed.

    In this case I was actually taught the truth for Scripture supports…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Nick,

    Flesh is of the soil of earth.

    Perishable.

    Only until creation is freed from its bondage to corruption.

    Romans 8:20-24Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21 because the creature itself also shall be delivered…

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    No you made that up.

    Your perceptions are against truth

    Not one word is made up though there may be an error in it since I am fully capable of error. But I see nowhere where you detected one so perhaps not.

    I admit that it is sometimes easier to determine what a passage of Scripture does not mean that to determine what it…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Nick,

    The Lord is Spirit means God is Love. Jesus after all stated God is spirit and his people will worship him in spirit and truth. You know that means his people will worship him with Love because is the sum of the Law. Jesus is also Love through the same Spirit so the specific identity of “the Lord” in the passage you speak is irrelevant…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Nick,

    This is what the NASB edition I have states.

    Romans 6:6New American Standard Bible (NASB)

    6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;
    Footnotes:

    Romans 6:6 Gr anthropos
    Romans 6:6 Or made powerless

    John 5 is…

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Nick,

    What version of Romans 6:6 is that as I do not see it on biblehub and it is missing words that most if not all those versions have. The words are “of sin” though it is only one word in Koine Greek.

    Here is a sample:

    Berean Literal Bible
    knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, so that the body of sin might be annulled,…

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    You quote a scripture in Mt 24 about the residents of earth as if it relates to the Kingdom.

    get real.

    You need to take James advice in 1:19 and be slow to answer as it is evident you did consider your words. Don’t you believe that:

    Matthew 24:29-31Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    29 Immediately after the tribulation…

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Nick,

    I accuse you of flawed interpretation and pointed out that others have chosen another path. There path agrees with Paul’s claim that Jesus was resurrected to the newness of life but yours does not.

    Let us look at another passage of Scripture that claims that flesh will be saved on that day.

    Matthew 24:22Authorized (King James) Version…

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Nick,

    There is no confusion in what I wrote. What confusion is introduced is introduced by those that lack faith in the truth.

    I notice you failed to answer my direct question.

    Is that because if you answered yes you would be in conflict with your chosen interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15:50?

    You could have answered no but that would have…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    You are able to tell Paul what he meant?

    Paul knew that physical resurrection was not the goal for us but the new body is.

    1) You ask me if I am able to tell Paul what he meant and then followup by telling Paul what he meant.
    2) But to answer your question I understand English and it disagrees with your claim.
    3) Listen long and…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    Kerwin

    so you say i do not believe in the resurrection ,I never said that ,for i do believe in the resurrection but you seem not to believe in it ,for according to John , jesus was resurrected with his old body ,the one he died with ,this is why scriptures says that God will not leave his body to decay,

    and also to prove to his…

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    terrarica,

    kerwin

    yes you got it ;

    but i would like to know what are the tools God provide us with or able us to have ?

    They vary though communication is one fairly constant one. Another constant is prayer. Scripture is a tool as is anything that will aid you to understand its message. It is not mandatory to have Scripture but communication…[Read more]

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    @t8,

    Have you had a chance to read this?

    t8,

    I am sorry about trashing my words as everything I think does not always make it into writing.

    My point being that if you believe Jesus is a human being then you believe he has a human soul and that human soul came into human flesh. You also believe he is the promised Christ.

    If you do not…

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    @t8,

    Have you had a chance to read this?

    t8,

    I am sorry about trashing my words as everything I think does not always make it into writing.

    My point being that if you believe Jesus is a human being then you believe he has a human soul and that human soul came into human flesh. You also believe he is the promised Christ.

    If you do not…

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Ed,

    The term son of God is certainly misunderstood by many though it seems clear as God has not body and therefore no child of it. Instead God is Love and his children are also Love, Love being a spirit and the Spirit being Love.

    Another one may well be the statement “God is Spirit” which is translated to mean he is composed of spirit like a…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    I can sum up all three passages by stating that ever when written plainly the word of God is misinterpreted by those who love to sin because they do not want to come into righteousness. In addition those that hunger and thirst for righteousness will come to know the truth even when it is written in parables because they lover…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    Those words speak of a trap the Devil sets for each and every person that studies Scriptures.

    I believe you do at times fall into that trap. Terraricca is probably speaking of other times. In short it does not mean much except you disagree with the person who addressed it to you.

    It is always a good warning whether it is misused by…[Read more]

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