Mike,I am behind in this thread as I am also dealing with other things in my life at this time.Previously you said:Quote In that verse, John made it clear that he didn't yet know what he would be, but only that he would be like Jesus.That is not what it says. Instead it says ” we will be has not yet been made known” or “and it is not yet made…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 10 2014,06:40)Mike,Quote In that verse, John made it clear that he didn't yet know what he would be, but only that he would be like Jesus.So you believe Paul did know while John did not even though they both taught the gospel.Mile,You have failed to reasonably explain this dilemma in your teaching.

Mike,John is not saying that in the past he did not see Jesus as he is.  He is saying he will see Jesus as he is in the future.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2014,03:30)Are you saying a new spiritual flesh body is too brilliant to be seen by human eyes?  If so, how did they all see Jesus in his resurrection body?Mike,That is another discussion as I was using your words to demonstrate the error in your chosen explanation. I do not even support the words I wrote as I believe…[Read more]

Mike,These are your words which I am changing to show that the same can be said of a flesh body that is given the power of life by the Spirit.Paul and John both knew they would end up with a Spiritual body – one that could blind a normal human being with its brilliance.Neither of them, as mere human beings of flesh and blood, had a clue as to…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 10 2014,08:43)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 10 2014,07:14)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 09 2014,23:23)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 09 2014,21:02)T,I had no intention of using 1 scripture to annul another.  I just pointed out that the spirit, as a teacher, is sent is the name of Jesus and the apostles baptized in the name of Jesus as well.…[Read more]

Mike,I believe that the word was not a creature until it became Jesus. I believe that heaven was created through it then the angels were created of heaven.

Mike,My teaching is that the utterance of God had the aspect of Jesus added to it after he was conceived in his mother's inner self.

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 09 2014,23:23)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 09 2014,21:02)T,I had no intention of using 1 scripture to annul another.  I just pointed out that the spirit, as a teacher, is sent is the name of Jesus and the apostles baptized in the name of Jesus as well.  That is one way the baptism they employed during the conversion of believers d…[Read more]

Mike,Jesus was transfigured while having a flesh body. Peter offered to set up tents for Jesus, Moses, and Elijah. His actions revealed he believed they were not spirits.

Mike,I tend to see ” it doth not yet appear what we shall be” as speaking of righteousness. I am attempting to adjust that viewpoint.

Mike,Quote In that verse, John made it clear that he didn't yet know what he would be, but only that he would be like Jesus.So you believe Paul did know while John did not even though they both taught the gospel.

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 03 2013,00:07)It is written:Matthew 4:4Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.Some believe:Matthew 4:4An interpretation of the Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)4 But he answered and said,…[Read more]

T,I had no intention of using 1 scripture to annul another. I just pointed out that the spirit, as a teacher, is sent is the name of Jesus and the apostles baptized in the name of Jesus as well. That is one way the baptism they employed during the conversion of believers differs from the baptism of John. Peter is preaching the gospel when he…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 09 2014,08:47)KIt is Jesus that baptized those he chooses ,many are called but few are chosen ,T,John 14:26New International Version (NIV)26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.John 14:14-17New International…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2014,22:47)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 08 2014,10:21)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)2.  We don't yet know what JESUS is, because we have yet to see him as he is.Those John wrote to and us today just see Jesus as a thing we are to hope for.  John also wanted to see Jesus in a similar way though he had seen him previously.John included h…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 08 2014,23:31)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 08 2014,22:41)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 07 2014,03:26)Jn 1:33 I would not have known him, except that the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is he who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’ Jn 1:34 I have seen and I tes…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 07 2014,03:26)Jn 1:33 I would not have known him, except that the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is he who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’ Jn 1:34 I have seen and I testify that this is the Son of God.”PAY ATTENTION THAT IN THIS VERSES JOHN SAYS…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 07 2014,04:11)Kerwin.What is truth?One that does understand these listed below:1.All of he old testament.2.All of the prohesies there in.3.All of the new testament.4.One that knows the Father,and the Son.5.The new prophesies.6.One that has found the clear picture of the whole plan.Knowing all those,is knowing the whole…[Read more]

Mike,Quote The bottom line is that they hadn't yet seen Jesus “as he is”.The bottom line is that we currently hope to see Jesus but that but that we do not see him.  In that hope we purify ourselves by faith just as he is pure. When we see him we will see him as he is and not how we think he is, unless our thoughts agree with what is.If that is…[Read more]