Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 17 2014,08:19)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 17 2014,06:10)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 17 2014,06:07)knot God's word ,but THE WORDT,God's word is the word.kyou are not with your words ;THE WORD is a being as per John 1;14do really not understand that God created millions of angels being that work for him night and day ,and that as per…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 17 2014,08:19)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 17 2014,06:10)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 17 2014,06:07)knot God's word ,but THE WORDT,God's word is the word.kyou are not with your words ;THE WORD is a being as per John 1;14do really not understand that God created millions of angels being that work for him night and day ,and that as per…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2014,23:20)So “JESUS” was one of the forms this “indication of the presence of the mind and will of God” took?And “JESUS” was one of the forms through which “the mind and will of God was revealed”?Is that correct?And also, what other “forms” did this thing take on?  Is “JESUS” the ONLY one?Mike,The first two points…[Read more]

Mike,Quote “Obtain” is NOT a synonym of “manifest”, or “appeared”.  So your attempt falls flat on its face.You seem to have missed that I have not claimed it is a synonym.  I instead claimed I paraphrased the sentence.You understand that that the word “appear” can mean that a person bodily appears.  I assume you also understand believers will ap…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 17 2014,06:07)knot God's word ,but THE WORDT,God's word is the word.

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,23:32)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 17 2014,03:03)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,09:11)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2014,07:23)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,01:02)Carmel.Just as a computer is infected by men,So also men did to the bible.But God also is a wise God; He knows that.Therefore he must have preserved his Word,against those…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2014,23:30)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2014,10:26)Mike,Jesus is not an angel of God or of Satan.  The angels were created after the waters, the clouds, the winds, at the least.Yes Kerwin,I am well aware that one of the reasons you don't accept the scriptures that say Jesus is the firstborn of ALL creation, and the one…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2014,23:22)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2014,10:18)They called a human king god……….So then, even in YOUR understanding of Hebrews 1:8-9, Jesus was called a god?So that pretty much substantiates my point #1, right?Please say so for the record.Mike,I already admitted the human kings that sit on the throne of David are…[Read more]

Mike,My point is that just as earthly flesh is made if things of this earth heavenly flesh could be made of the things of heaven.  Psalms 104 is not speaking of celestial objects though they like the clouds of earth would be objects of the sky of earth.  The only water I can think of in Scripture that you could be writing of is the water Jesus s…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2014,22:24)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 15 2014,12:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 15 2014,06:05)That definition is VERY confusing to me. Walk me through what exactly that means, using laymen's terms.2) 'The form in which' the mind and will of God 'is revealed.'And what “form” did this thing take?  To whom was it…[Read more]

Mike,Jesus is the king just like David was in his day and so he can be called god just as David was in his day.

Mike,Jesus is not an angel of God or of Satan.  The angels were created after the waters, the clouds, the winds, at the least.  I see that as earth and you see it as heaven but in either case the angels were created after some things and therefore all things in heaven and on earth could not be created from one of the angels.Psalm 104:1-4New I…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2014,22:02)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 15 2014,11:43)The Jews teach there are only two names in that passage but the certain translators who teach Jesus is God or those that teach Jesus is a god use four names.  Bias!And what about Hebrews 1:8-9, Kerwin?Does my point #1 stand?  Or can you scripturally refute it?Which one p…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,09:11)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2014,07:23)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,01:02)Carmel.Just as a computer is infected by men,So also men did to the bible.But God also is a wise God; He knows that.Therefore he must have preserved his Word,against those viruses, So we can still find the truth.wakeup.Wakeup,No one has…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 15 2014,20:15)What say YOU, Kerwin?Mike,Accept for where your own and my doctrines are different I agree.For example:I believe it's ludicrous to think that God spoke a word (or words) out of His mouth, and that word (or words) became a living breathing being other than God.  And then that word (or words) went around…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,01:02)Carmel.Just as a computer is infected by men,So also men did to the bible.But God also is a wise God; He knows that.Therefore he must have preserved his Word,against those viruses, So we can still find the truth.wakeup.Wakeup,No one has infected the Holy Spirit. Don't you believe God is a living God?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 15 2014,06:05)That definition is VERY confusing to me. Walk me through what exactly that means, using laymen's terms.Mike,It is my understanding that is what a dictionary is supposed to do.1) 'An indication of the presence' of the mind and will of God2) 'The form in which' the mind and will of God 'is revealed.'I believe…[Read more]

T,I added more after I posted.  You posted to only the portion I posted previously.I am not concerned with the words as words can mean many things.  I am concerned with the truth that can be expressed with those words.  The Jews translate Isaiah 9:6 one way and Trinitarians another but the words each uses can be used to express the truth though ne…[Read more]

Mike, JamminIsaiah 9:6New American Standard Bible (NASB)6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us;And the government will rest on His shoulders;And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.Footnotes:    Isaiah 9:6 Lit beJesus' name is Jesus.  So this passage is clearly not sp…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 15 2014,05:48)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 14 2014,16:53)Mike,Paul stated Jesus appeared to him also.1 Corinthians 15:8New American Standard Bible (NASB)8 and last of all, as to one untimely born, He appeared to me also.And Jesus did indeed “appear” to Paul.  But was Paul able to SEE Jesus “as he is”?  Or did the light from the v…[Read more]