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    kerwin replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 14 2014,18:54)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 14 2014,22:16)Wakeup,I am not sure what you are saying.  Perhaps I will understand it better at a later time.Kerwin.It is simple.Compare spiritual things with spiritual,and let the HS take over. There is no need for men's assistance.There is no need to be a graduate in theology,for that is…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Wakeup,I am not sure what you are saying. Perhaps I will understand it better at a later time.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2014,12:21)Hi KW,We know of a few hours of his life before the baptisms and you speculate he was already anointed? God, his father, was with him.Nick,You really should learn the meaning of words before you use them.  Speculate means “form a theory or conjecture about a subject without firm evidence.”  I looked it up o…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2014,11:03)Hi KW, Should we speculate?Nick,Speculation itself is vain but the teaching about the resurrection is only derived from the Old Testament by the application of reasoning such as Jesus used with the Sadducees. In using reason Jesus was not speculating.A similar application of reasoning shows us only those…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 14 2014,08:49)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2014,07:05)Hi, Logic fails miserably when trying to grasp the spiritual words of God.Nickyou are wrong ;read the story of Jonas the king of ninive told his people let all stop doing what we are doing and let put sackcloth MAYBE THE GOD OF THE PROPHET WILL NOT DO THAT TO US ;THIS…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2014,08:10)Yes WUNick,I actually agree that godly logic is not human logic,

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    kerwin replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2014,07:05)Hi, Logic fails miserably when trying to grasp the spiritual words of God.Nick,Actually you lack knowledge of what logic is since you attempt to use it yourself and I don't think you are intentionally being a hypocrite on the subject.Logic is only a tool for reasoning.  Like the vast majority of tools it…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic The Word in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2014,23:41)1.  Can you see that the phrase “the word” means different things in the two examples?  2.  Would you ever use #2 to prove that #1 doesn't refer to a living, breathing BEING?  3.  Would you ever use #2 to prove that the Word and the King from #1 are the same, identical person or being?Mike,This is where the…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic The Word in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2014,05:31)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 13 2014,17:06)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2014,03:43)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 13 2014,12:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2014,23:41)Consider the King of Abyssinia, who also has a spokesman called “The Word”.  Tell me if “the word” means the same thing in both of the following examples:1.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2014,01:45)Hi, “there is one Spirit” is the overarching fact. Scripture speaks of another counsellor, says WE will come to you and shows the multitude of facets within the Spirit. But there is ONE SPIRITNick,Have you considered that Jesus received the Spirit as Counselor before he was born but when he was immersed he…[Read more]

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    T,It appears the 144,000 are the flesh that are saved from the earth in the last day. They are the ones that are changed and snatched up to meet the King in the sky.

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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 14 2014,08:40)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 14 2014,00:04)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2014,06:34)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 12 2014,10:21)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2014,01:38)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 12 2014,00:42)T,If you choose to take Revelations literally then Paul is not one of the 144,000 as they are sealed during the opening of the…[Read more]

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    Mike,The words are literally “of earth” and “of heaven”.  The made can be implied in some cases with the Koine Greek word translated earthly. The earthly and heavenly are opposite side of the same coin.  If your are speaking of a body composed of earth then its opposite is a body composed of heaven.  If it is instead it is a body that is “i…[Read more]

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    Mike,I tend to believe the correct definition is “temporal, passing away; transient” and not the literal “made of the dirt” you favor. Heavenly is similar to earthly and the Koine Greek word means “of heaven” Quote 2032 epouránios (an adjective, derived from 1909 /epí, “on, fitting,” which intensifies 3772 /ouranós, “heaven”) – properly, heav…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic The Word in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Mike,I am more busy that usual and in the best of times I miss things so please have patience with my weaknesses.

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    kerwin replied to the topic The Word in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2014,03:43)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 13 2014,12:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2014,23:41)Consider the King of Abyssinia, who also has a spokesman called “The Word”.  Tell me if “the word” means the same thing in both of the following examples:1.  The Word of the King showed up late to work Saturday, so the king had to s…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic The Word in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 12 2014,10:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2014,05:34)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 11 2014,12:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2014,23:41)Consider the King of Abyssinia, who also has a spokesman called “The Word”.  Tell me if “the word” means the same thing in both of the following examples:1.  The Word of the King showed up late to w…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2014,06:34)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 12 2014,10:21)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2014,01:38)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 12 2014,00:42)T,If you choose to take Revelations literally then Paul is not one of the 144,000 as they are sealed during the opening of the sixth seal that John sees happening in the future.Revelation…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2014,12:04)Hi KW, Paul is yet alive..in the Spirit.Nick,I agree but the John speaks of the 144000 is id they were still in their mortal bodies.

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 13 2014,19:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 13 2014,10:15)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 12 2014,07:52)wallace said Christ is God and you dont agree with that.Wallace sensibly taught us that the construction of John 1:1 keeps us from identifying the Word with God.  His teaching is also supported by the 25 Trinitarian scholars from…[Read more]

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