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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2014,05:51)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 16 2014,05:01)kerwin,divine nature is not the ONLY nature of God. do you understand? if you say you have the nature of God, then you should be almighty, eternal, you are everywhere, all knowing, etc. go back to school boyJammin,Thank you for answering my question.Do your think “image of God”…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2014,09:18)Hi, There is no evidence that the Word was a separate divine being before being made flesh. But it is a popular ideaNick,I agree that those that are too used to the false teachings of either trinitarians and their decendant teaching have not yet fremm from thee lies and deceptions of those teaching. Until…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 16 2014,23:26)Nick, jammin, Gene, and all:We all seem to agree that the “God” in John 1:1b (the Word was with “God”) is “the Father”.But is the “God” in 1:1c (the Word was “God”) also “the Father”?YES or NO?Mike,If John 1:1 was translated even more literally than it is then it would go “the word is with the god and the…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Nick,Is this what you call fancying herself?1 Samuel 12:6-7Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)6 And Samuel said unto the people, It is the Lord that advanced Moses and Aaron, and that brought your fathers up out of the land of Egypt. 7 Now therefore stand still, that I may reason with you before the Lord of all the righteous acts of the Lord,…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2014,10:37)Hi KW,Yes to draw men to Christ only.Thence the tool has no value to those with the mind of ChristNick,Reason and Scripture go together to teach and train believers in righteousness. The Spirit uses our reason to teach us.

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    kerwin replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2014,08:07)Hi KW, The Spirit serves human reason??Nick,Logic is a tool and the Holy Spirit uses it.

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    kerwin replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2014,06:28)Hi KW, Indeed Paul used reason with the greeks. But reason can only lead you to the water. Response in rebirth and submission of the mind to the Spirit is the way of God Reason is no longer in chargeNick,The Spirit is necessary for reason to be successful and faith is necessary for the effect of reason to…[Read more]

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    Nick,Yes! Paul is using that to teach about the resurrection but some are misled by the teaching that the last man is the Lord from heaven and that Lord is Jesus.

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    kerwin replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2014,04:14)Hi KW, The only useful thing for men to do is hear the message and to come to the Lord as little childrenNick,You do not hear a message you do not understand. Paul used reason in spreading the message and those who came to believe the message used reason in order to seek to properly understand it.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2014,04:16)Hi KW, Heavenly self?Nick,In Romans 7:22 it is called the inner man.

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 16 2014,05:01)kerwin,divine nature is not the ONLY nature of God. do you understand? if you say you have the nature of God, then you should be almighty, eternal, you are everywhere, all knowing, etc. go back to school boyJammin,Thank you for answering my question.Do your think “image of God” and “form of God” mean the same thing?

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    kerwin replied to the topic The Word in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 16 2014,01:57)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 13 2014,23:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2014,23:41)1.  Can you see that the phrase “the word” means different things in the two examples?  2.  Would you ever use #2 to prove that #1 doesn't refer to a living, breathing BEING?  3.  Would you ever use #2 to prove that the Word and the…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2014,00:12)hi MB, Useless to test the spirits with your natural mind.Only in Christ Jesus is the grace available.I can do all things through him who strengthens me.Nick,What do you think Jesus meant when he said “Scripture” cannot be broken. It almost seems that you believe that logic can break it.

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    Mike, The first Adam was a body without a soul.  That body was made of the earth that was at that time not subject to frustration.  The second Adam is from heaven and was breathed in the nostrils of the first Adam and he gave life to the first Adam.adam is composed of body, soul, and spirit.1) Adam's body was formed out of the earth.2) Adam was n…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 15 2014,08:11)Hi KW Where are the wise? Where are the scholars? Let little children come to me.Niick,Here are the scholars.Matthew 13:52Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 15 2014,08:13)Hi KW, To every man his logic is flawless. But there are deeper truthsNick,It does not care if a man thinks his logic is flawless as logic is like math. A man may think his math is flawless but that does not mean 1 + 1 = 7.  The trinitarians who claim their teaching not ” not capable of logical…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 15 2014,01:29)Hi, Dependance on greek logic can rob us of vital information. God does not have to be logical.Nick,Jesus used Greek style logic and he said follow me. There is Jewish style logic as well and applying Greek to it will lead you astray. Logic is useless without the Spirit.

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    kerwin replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 15 2014,03:19)kQuote T seems to get the message from his words.  and what that suppose to mean ???T,It means that you seem to understand that human wisdom is wisdom without God and the godly wisdom with God.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 15 2014,01:02)Hi WU, “Logic” like that led the catholics to worship Mary as the mother of God.Or do you say Mary was only a surrogate? Jesus said she was his motherNick,Flawed logic is no logic but is instead illogical. I believe that tenet is rather recent. Trinitarians tend to agree with you about logic as they say…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 14 2014,20:29)kerwin,no verse that tells us that MAN HAS NATURE OF GOD.Jammin,Since you have not answered my question about whether God has a divine nature I am assuming you are afraid it will compromise your position. My question is why do you choose to take a position that you feel can be compromised that easily?

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