Quote (jammin @ Mar. 19 2014,19:59)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 19 2014,03:55)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 18 2014,19:39)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 18 2014,12:28)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 17 2014,19:44)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 17 2014,09:50)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2014,05:51)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 16 2014,05:01)kerwin,divine nature is not the ONLY nature of God. do you…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2014,10:04)Hi J42, Of course Jesus had half his DNA from his Father. The other half from Mary.His spiritual sonship was of the Spirit at the JordanNick,DNA is a bodily thing and Scripture declares Jesus was the Son of David, as of the body, Romans 1:2. Journey's understanding is based on a flawed verse from a…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 17 2014,12:53)Mike,Yes, Paul is teaching what kind  of bodies humanity will be raised in but he simply is not teaching what they will be composed of.I am reluctant to answer the rest of your questions as I think you may choose not to deal with these points I have brought up because you find uncomfortable or…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2014,07:28)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 17 2014,00:38)As to the definition of the Koine Greek word meaning that the mortal body is composed of flesh that is absurd.  None of the definitions say that though it has at least one definition in common with fleshly and so in that sense it is a synonym.So the word most often…[Read more]

Mike,If you think other verses support your teaching better and John 1 is neutral to it then use those teachings. They are not really the topic of this thread.

To all,Is anyone disagree that you must be more righteous than the Pharisees to inherit the reign of God?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2014,06:44)Hi KW, I see from a reference you gave that you are reading Augustine.Nick,I read part of an argument he made that was fairly much the same as mine about the resurrected body. We both came up with it independently and his was centuries before mine. That much I agree with him on. I also agree with you when…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 17 2014,12:59)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2014,06:01)Hi KW, No it is of the Spirit. 1Cor 12Nick,Everyone can test the spirit and only some are given the gift of discerning the spirit so I do not what you say is correct. Others are given the gift of knowledge or of wisdom and that is what I speak of.Note: I corrected my poor…[Read more]

Mike,I will try to look at the rest of the things you write at a later time.

Mike,Quote 1. First of all, the phrase “the Word BECAME flesh” most LOGICALLY refers to something or someone called “the Word” actually and literally BECOMING FLESH. It is FAR LESS LIKELY that the phrase “the Word BECAME flesh” speaks of an already flesh man taking on “characteristics” of something or someone called “the Word”. No, that is not…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 18 2014,19:39)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 18 2014,12:28)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 17 2014,19:44)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 17 2014,09:50)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2014,05:51)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 16 2014,05:01)kerwin,divine nature is not the ONLY nature of God. do you understand? if you say you have the nature of God, then you should be almighty,…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 17 2014,19:44)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 17 2014,09:50)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2014,05:51)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 16 2014,05:01)kerwin,divine nature is not the ONLY nature of God. do you understand? if you say you have the nature of God, then you should be almighty, eternal, you are everywhere, all knowing, etc. go back to school…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2014,06:01)Hi KW, No it is of the Spirit. 1Cor 12Nick,Everyone can test the spirit and only some are given the gift of discerning the spirit so I do not what you say is correct. Others are given the gift of knowledge or of wisdom and that is what I speak of.Note: I corrected my poor grammar and put dropped words back in.

Mike,Yes, Paul is teaching what kind of bodies humanity will be raised in but he simply is not teaching what they will be composed of.I am reluctant to answer the rest of your questions as I think you may choose not to deal with these points I have brought up because you find uncomfortable or something.

Mike,Quote 2. Do all of us have the spirit of God from heaven animating us, just like Adam did? If so, doesn't that refute your understanding that the “first Adam” was the flesh body, and the “second Adam” was the breath (spirit) from heaven? YES or NO?3. Your claim that “Adam's body became temporal, passing away, transient when he sinned”…[Read more]

Mike,Whether soulical is in the dictionaries we have available is of not matter since it is in a translation of Scripture and another known religious figure who used it as well.  It also happens to mean “of or belonging to the breath”.  As to the definition of the Koine Greek word meaning that the mortal body is composed of flesh that is absurd.  …[Read more]

Mike,Quote So, do John 1:1 and 1:14 speak about a PERSON who is called “The Word of God”? Yes, obviously, because it was a PERSON who dwelled as a flesh being on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son.So in that case, I am able to link the uses of “Word of God”, because Rev 19:13, John 1:1, and John 1:14 all speak about a PERSON who is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2014,00:02)Hi MB, The gift of discernmentNick,I assume you mean to recognize as different from the truth by means of applying reason guided by the Spirit.

Mike,I do not see where the context says the man in v47 is Adam.  I do see that Paul states “The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit” is all written in Scripture.  That is his premise and yet “the last Adam was made a quickening spirit” is not literally written in Scripture but it is instead derived f…[Read more]

Mike,First, 1 Corinthians 15:50 does not say that only spiritual bodies may enter the kingdom of heaven. In fact there is no where in Scripture that states that. It is only taught by men.Second, 1 Corinthians 15:44 is not talking about a body composed of spirit not is it talking a body composed of soul as to claim one is true it is reasonable to…[Read more]