Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2014,07:46)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 24 2014,11:33)1)  I have not settled on a stance though fighting temptation is at least part of the battle.2) I actually made an error as I went by only what I remembered and when I actually read it, its speaks of spiritual wickedness in heavenly places.  The words “heavenly places” are u…[Read more]

Mike,You cannot even prove that their is one mention of bodies composed of spirit in the bible. You go by one Scripture that is misinterpreted by those who lack understanding of the original language and thus use the wrong meaning for the English words.You cannot even prove that only bodies composed of spirit enter the kingdom of heaven. You…[Read more]

Wakeup,Even by your teaching the thief was not immersed in the holy spirit.I also referred to the fact Nicodemus, who was a master of Israel, should have know what Jesus was speaking about.

Wakeup,There is only one passage in Scripture that literally speaks of baptism with the holy spirit that is nowhere in the book of Acts. That means you are claiming that a person who exhibits the gift of the Spirit has been immersed in the spirit. I know of no evidence that supports that claim and plenty of evidence that opposes that claim. The…[Read more]

T,Not that I know of.

T,I read the passages that you quote and know what I have learned from them but not know the point you desire for them to make as you do not tell me.

Wakeup,Quote THE THIEF WAS NOT BAPTISED AND YET HE IS PROMISED PARADISE.JESUS DOES NOT CONTRADICT HIS OWN WORDS.BUT THE THIEF WAS BORN OF MOTHERS WATER.JESUS WAS BORN OF MOTHERS WATER.Being a Jew he may well have been immersed in water since the Jews practice immersion to this day. For that reason a master of Israel should have known what Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2014,04:31)Hi WU,1.First born is out of water.(natural birth).Scripture rather calls this of BLOOD jn 1.13=I.e fleshNick,Good passage as it covers both births.

Wakeup,Quote One is born again when mother zion(spirit) gives birth to all Her children.Spirit children. When you are born of the spirit;YOU ARE SPIRIT.The only time a human being is a spirit being is when they are dead, a ghost. Don't your believe is the resurrection of the dead?What Scripture states is that believers are immersed for the…[Read more]

Journey42,The Israeli government is atheist government that claims to be secularist.  They have a love-hate relationship with the fundamentalist Jews.  The Jewish government put Jesus to death in order to avoid the desolation of their country.  He would not have done what they feared but they did not believe in him and so judged him as if he li…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2014,06:23)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 27 2014,12:07)T,I was thinking you were speaking Paul having the Spirit. Your correction is welcome.  Galatians 2:2 is your answer.kGal 2:1 Fourteen years later I went up again to Jerusalem, this time with Barnabas. I took Titus along also. Gal 2:2 I went in response to a revelation and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2014,06:50)Pierre,It seems to me that the scripture Kerwin gave you supported the claim Kerwin made.You should tell him, “Thank you”, IMO.He made a claim, and then, when asked for scriptural support for that claim, readily gave said support.That is exactly how these scriptural discussions should be done,…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2014,19:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2014,06:50)Pierre,It seems to me that the scripture Kerwin gave you supported the claim Kerwin made.You should tell him, “Thank you”, IMO.He made a claim, and then, when asked for scriptural support for that claim, readily gave said support.That is exactly how these scriptural…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2014,06:16)Lot's wife didn't “have a change in qualities”, Kerwin.  Her body was TOTALLY and COMPLETELY transformed from flesh to salt.And my question is:  Why then, can't “he BECAME flesh” also refer to a TOTAL and COMPLETE transformation of the body of the Word………. from “spirit” to “flesh”?(Any honest answer y…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2014,06:16)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 26 2014,12:26)Mike,Quote (mikeboll @ 64)“Lot's wife became a pillar of salt.”I must have stung you with that red herring comment but yes, sometimes became is speaking of a more major change in qualities.  You applied the term “red herring” to a unrelated and unnecessary point that YOU…[Read more]

Nick,2 Timothy 2:23But refuse foolish and ignorant speculations, knowing that they produce quarrels.All that teaches us is that there is foolish(corrupt?) and ignorant(lacking knowledge) speculation that can lead to angry arguments. There is other types of speculation. Peter states something similar with these words.2 Peter 3:16Authorized (King…[Read more]

T,The meaning is simple and that is he will come back just as he left. He disappeared in the clouds and then at that time he will appear in the clouds. He was ascending when he disappeared and so he will be descending when he appears.

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 28 2014,05:21)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 28 2014,08:02)Wakeup,4)   Everyone that is born again is a child of the kingdom.Matthew 13:47-50Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: 48 which, when it was full, they drew to shore,…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 28 2014,11:53)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 27 2014,16:55)David,Psychiatrists practice a soft science and it tends to be influenced more by the bias of the individual.  Never the less they are better at determining the situation with those that live by the flesh and not those that live by the Spirit.  The later are just too alien to t…[Read more]

Ed,Quote Point #2: Gentiles hearing the good news of the Gospel were”Baptized” with God's HolySpirit without being water baptized.What evidence do you have to support this claim?My guess is the fact that Cornelius and his household spoke in tongues before being immersed in water. Of basing your claim on that evidence ignores the fact that the 70…[Read more]