WU,Quote The story of Lazarus going to paradise was a parable.Just as the wheat and the tares,and many parables.That means what? Are there not fields in which farmers plant wheat? Jesus simply told a parable whose punchline was about someone being raised from the dead and based it on the known doctrine of the 1st Century kingdom of God. You can…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 31 2014,08:41)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2014,10:34)wu,Quote Jesus did not explain things deeply to Nicodemus.For a reason.He was a ruler of pharisees.Jesus did not tell Nicodemus anything that he should not of already known and some of those that call themselves Jews still teach the same things to this day even though they do…[Read more]

Nick,What I hear from Hebrews 11:39-40 does not disagree with that.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2014,06:35)Hi KW Heb 1139 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.Sound more like they will be made perfect when they too are given the grace and peace that came through Jesus…[Read more]

Nick,You may be correct.

Nick,Hebrews 11:40Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.They won't be made perfect without us.That sounds like we stand in the new covenant to show what they would have done if they too had been under the new covenant.

WU,Quote Jesus tomb was paradise you say??I do not think the AV of the KJV messes up the passage so much you cannot understand Jesus' body was one place while his soul was in another. Acts 2:27Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)27 because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Scripture…[Read more]

wu,Quote Jesus did not explain things deeply to Nicodemus.For a reason.He was a ruler of pharisees.Jesus did not tell Nicodemus anything that he should not of already known and some of those that call themselves Jews still teach the same things to this day even though they do not come to Jesus.

Wakeup,Quote Paradise of the dead:that is something new.No it is nowhere near new.  It has been taught for thousands of years but some are ignorant due to heretical teaching and passages that are made harder to understand by corrupt or ignorant translators and interpreters.Anybody with eyes open can see that Jesus tells us Lazarus went to the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 30 2014,05:55)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2014,05:35)Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 30 2014,04:59)Matthew 21:25   ***The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of      men***? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him?Well was it from heaven or…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2014,03:54)Hi KW. The gift of prophecy was manifested in God's servants, the prophets.Our hope is to sit and dine with them in the kingdom1.Matthew 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.Nick,Yes, but that…[Read more]

Mike,Quote I have shown you where Paul speaks of us getting out of our earthly tents, but not being left naked, because God will give to us a new heavenly tent in which to dwell.You have shown me that you invent things as you have no evidence there is a spirit body.  The only creatures I know for sure have forms made of spirits are ghost and they…[Read more]

Mike,Quote I have shown you Jesus' words in John 3, where he teaches Nicodemus that we must be born again of something OTHER THAN flesh, because flesh can neither see nor enter the kingdom of heaven.You are stretching again as if you do not know the words of John 1:13.  Scripture does declare that Jesus is the first born from among the dead and…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Now, all I really need to show any NORMAL person that Jesus and the angels are SPIRIT BEINGS is in 1 Cor 15, where we are told that the last Adam became a life-giving spirit…… and where we are told that FLESH simply CANNOT inherit the kingdom of God.Normal is over rated as John the Baptist was not normal for his day and the normal…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Posted: Mar. 31 2014,03:26 QUOTEQuote (kerwin @ Mar. 29 2014,16:46)Mike,You cannot even prove that their is one mention of bodies composed of spirit in the bible. All you can do is speculate about these things.And you can't prove that God actually created the heavens and the earth, Kerwin. All you can do is speculate that the word…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2014,08:05)Hi KW, The Holy Spirit brings gifts.The Spirit of Christ manifested in the Prophets who were judged as clean by God.None received the Spirit of Christ under the new covenant till he returned to God and the Spirit was shared.Nick,Some of what you say is unclear. The prophets spoke the word of God as they…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 29 2014,22:59)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2014,01:21)Wakeup,There is only one passage in Scripture that literally speaks of baptism with the holy spirit that is nowhere in the book of Acts.  That means you are claiming that a person who exhibits the gift of the Spirit has been immersed in the spirit.  I know of no evidence that s…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 30 2014,04:59)Matthew 21:25   ***The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of      men***? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him?Well was it from heaven or of men?wakeup.Wakeup,Scripture states John came from above and the…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 30 2014,04:11)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2014,05:18)Hi WU, But your posts are largely of your opinion,strongly expressed, even shouted,and you show scant respect for the source of true knowledge, the Word.Nick.You are a christian,and should have patience and be slow to anger. The large letters were not meant to shout.Some…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 30 2014,03:59)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2014,01:26)Wakeup,Even by your teaching the thief was not immersed in the holy spirit.I also referred to the fact Nicodemus, who was a master of Israel, should have know what Jesus was speaking about.Kerwin.The thief will get to paradise by promise.He will be there in the…[Read more]