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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    Your comment is inappropriate being I have been eluding to Scripture the whole time. Are you saying you are not familiar with the passage I hinted at?

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    show me the scriptures to support your claim ?

    I have but you do not believe the Passages.

    Even t8 and some Trinitarians admit that the words “The word is God” means the word has the qualities of God but you do not believe.

    You also believe the word meanss the word.

    There are three that are mentioned as contributing to creation…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Gene,

    Thank you!

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    It is a straight up divine word teaching. A well known teaching of the first century. You have been taught to look at it differently but John’s first century hearers would have heard Just what I said.

    Hebrews 1:6New King James Version (NKJV)

    6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says:

    “Let all the a…

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terraricca,

    Yes, but the way Jesus puts it the Spirit literally sounds like God’s love and it teaches and empowers believers to Love as God loves.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    I actually covered the first part already.

    God testified he would write his Law on the hearts and minds of his people so the word dwells among God’s people.

    It relationship to God is like that of a child to his/her father.

    15 is linking the word with the qualities of flesh to Jesus just like it earlier linked the light that is in…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    The silence because this is the last rush before school ends.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Nick,

    Romans 7 is Paul speaking under the Law and without access to the ability to walk according to the Spirit.

    He read the Spiritual Law and learned from it as a dutiful student learns from his instruction but he lacked to power to overcome his flesh.

    He uses ideas that he also uses elsewhere such as the idea of “sin in the flesh” though in…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    Describing the Holy Spirit is like describing the spirit of Love and considering it is his Spirit and he is Love in describing the spirit of love you are describing an aspect of the Spirit.

    So yes, walking according to the Spirit is to act according to God like love.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    Describe the spirit of Love.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Nick,

    I am speaking of Paul’ state before he received the Spirit; a time when his mind warred with his flesh.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    They have meaning but perhaps I am not imparting what I hear so that you also hear that meaning.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    3)Jesus his the “WORD ” OF GOD HIS FATHER

    John actually states the word took on the qualities of humanity which means the word is Jesus. He is definitely emphasizing the word that comes out of God’s mouth over Jesus. That emphasis may continue in Revelations 19 or it may not. It is the same as emphasizing the Spiritual over the…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terraricca,

    2) scriptures tells that the son comes from heaven

    It also teaches us that a human must be “born again” but that each of us must reenter our mother’s wombs to be born again as it is speaking of being born from above and not about being born from a womb.

    FYI: The Koine Greek word translated again means both “anew” and “above”.…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrrarica,

    1) the one with God is another than the one he his with,

    Your point is speculative because Scripture does not mention any creature existing with God before he created the heavens and the earth.

    Instead Scripture states the word goes forth from God’s mouth and will not return to be with him void. (Isaiah 55:11) Poetic but Scripture…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    Kerwin

    1Co 2:13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.

    please get your understanding right first

    Those words do not disagree with anything I said.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    I remember Mike arguing it meant a god but Philo of Alexandria, a Jew who spoke Koine Greek fluently and lived during the time of Jesus, tells his hearers that God without “the” meant the qualities of God. Mike is using a manuscript in a foreign language that was centuries later and unlike Philo has a reason to be biased. Philo’s…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    all you say is true ,but you forgot one thing in which you are wrong (the above )
    it was Paul love for the truth of God that saved him ,for he as been deceived by those that teached him ,the quality to love truth has to be in you for the word of truth of God to have any will for you ,

    Jesus stated God’s worshipers would worship him…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    “the things of the earth” the words are correct but some interpret them to be the physical, mental, or like of the earth when most times it is being stated in a spiritual context.

    “the things of the earth” often means the desires of the flesh and the deeds thereof.

    A natural human is a human with the mind on the satisfying the…[Read more]

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