Mike,So according to you Jesus existing in the outward appearance of God did not see equality with God as something to be grasped but instead emptied himself of his outward appearance and took on the out appearance of a servant, of which the two angels who visited Lot are.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 04 2014,21:19)Quote (kerwin @ May 03 2014,10:12)Stong's does say external appearance or the form by which a person or thing strikes the vision neither which fits what you want.Strong's definition fits EXACTLY what I've been saying, Kerwin.Jesus was existing as a being of light who looked like God Himself.  He emptied…[Read more]

To all,8 were saved by the preaching of the Spirit of Christ that was in Noah at that time.  They were Noah and his wife, their three sons and their wives.  That 8 total that were rescued from captivity to the darkness of sin.Isaiah 9:2Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)2 The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light:they that d…[Read more]

Nick,Possible but unlikely as 1 Thessalonians 5:23 speaks of all three being kept blameless and Jesus teaches us the we must love God with all our body, soul, and spirit.

Charles,Quote JUST BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST!AND YOU ARE SAVED!AS EASY AS THAT!I heard of a man that was in a movie and his line was that he believed in God but he hated him. Does salvation come from such belief?

Journey,Quote .  HISTORY. The crusades forcing christianity, and killing, but never the less, Christ's name being spread and being heard amongst the gentiles, but not according to truth. (no personal access to holy bible yet)That is a religious opinion.  It is mere speculation.   I have my own speculation but there is too little information to sa…[Read more]

Mike,You might want to consider that you are claiming Mosses saw God and that does not fit your chosen interpretation of John 1:18.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 03 2014,22:34)Quote (kerwin @ May 02 2014,11:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 02 2014,06:46)Quote (kerwin @ May 01 2014,12:35)In none of these is the features of God's face or backside mentioned.  Instead it is his goodness and his glory that are being spoken of.  The face of God's glory and goodness was too much for sinful man t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 03 2014,22:09)The flesh counts for nothing, Kerwin.  It is neither “spiritual” nor “unspiritual”.When you say, “all FLESH will worship God”, you are really saying that the SENTIENT part of flesh beings will worship God.The flesh itself counts for nothing, and can therefore not worship God.  It is what is INSIDE the flesh t…[Read more]

Mike,My thought on the passage is that I and you think too much like Greeks to always comprehend Jewish thought.  It is very seldom what we view as straightforward as they seem to have an obsession with symbols and the like.  This one seems fairly straightforward though there is the normal threat of miscommunications.It gives another reason than S…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 02 2014,22:48)Mike,The angels that visited Lot, Abraham id not have wings and were said in Scripture to have same outward appearance of humans.If you desire to claim that outward appearance varies among angels then I will go along but it still opposes your chosen interpretation of Philippians 2.Mike,What you seem to have chosen…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ May 02 2014,06:29)Quote (kerwin @ May 02 2014,04:34)Moderator,Is this the correct forum for this thread?This is a perfect example of how pathetic the christian world has become in these last days.Instead of looking at the content, you are more concerned about whether it is in the right thread or not?  This is where Marty was…[Read more]

Mike,I agree that the Spirit of God teaches the spirit of man righteousness and that it also gives a human the power over his body in order to use it to do righteousness.I also believe it empowers the flesh to overcome those limitations that are of this age, such as death and decay.  I believe a time will come when all flesh will worship God and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 02 2014,06:32)Quote (kerwin @ May 01 2014,11:40)Mike,We are assembled here today before God.  Where is God?On His throne in heaven, Kerwin.(Just do a search of the exact phrase “in heaven”.  You'll see plenty of scriptures that tell us exactly where God is.  Or, you could just go by the prayer Jesus taught us.)Mike,So ac…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 02 2014,06:46)Quote (kerwin @ May 01 2014,12:35)In none of these is the features of God's face or backside mentioned.  Instead it is his goodness and his glory that are being spoken of.  The face of God's glory and goodness was too much for sinful man to bear but the back of it was bearable by Moses.The Hebrew words say “…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Correct. Jehovah is invisible to human beings, and therefore we cannot see His form in order to build an accurate idol of Him.Angels have statues built of them.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 02 2014,06:35)Quote (kerwin @ May 01 2014,11:59)The Important PartGod makes his angel messengers winds and his angel servants flames of fire is where I stand.You seem to either sayGod makes his angels both spirits and flames of fire orGod makes his angels spirits, which is flames of fire.Aren't God's “messenger angels” also…[Read more]

Mike,The angels that visited Lot, Abraham id not have wings and were said in Scripture to have same outward appearance of humans.If you desire to claim that outward appearance varies among angels then I will go along but it still opposes your chosen interpretation of Philippians 2.

Mike,In that case neither as the new covenant was not in effect. Jesus was speaking of the disciples human spirit that was willing to stake awake while the demands of there physical flesh were stronger. Those strong demands is what made the flesh weak.The Spirit of God is stronger than even the strongest demands of the flesh. When it is in…[Read more]

Nick,Here is another to consider.1 Corinthians 7:34Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.