Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 17 2014,08:16)Quote (kerwin @ May 16 2014,19:50)Mike,Quote I don't have any WISHES for what the scriptures SHOULD teach.  So when John said there were souls under the alter in heaven, I have no reason to disbelieve what he said.You do realize if your understanding is wrong it is because you do not believe what Scripture…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 17 2014,08:23)Quote (kerwin @ May 15 2014,20:50)Mike,Quote John 3:13 NASB ©No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man.It is the same Greek word “oudeis” in that verse too, Kerwin.  But would you understand that to mean Gabriel is still on earth after visiting Daniel…….. because L…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 17 2014,08:27)Quote (kerwin @ May 15 2014,20:54)Mike,Quote The form of God is described in many scriptures, by men who were taken to heaven in visions and dreams.It is men who have never seen God that speak of seeing the similitude of God.  It is clear they could not of seen the literal similitude of God but a metaphorical…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 17 2014,08:23)Quote (kerwin @ May 15 2014,20:50)Mike,Quote John 3:13 NASB ©No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man.It is the same Greek word “oudeis” in that verse too, Kerwin.  But would you understand that to mean Gabriel is still on earth after visiting Daniel…….. because L…[Read more]

Mike,Quote I know that's how you understand it. That's why I made that huge post explaining to you why your understanding can't be the truth of the matter.I'll wait for you to address the many points I made in that post.Could you please let me know which post you are speaking of? Thank you.

Mike,Quote Matthew 23:9And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.I don't say that is “metaphorical”, Kerwin. I say our Father in heaven is our literal father.Those words were addressed to believers and not all humans so a stronger case is that Jesus is speaking as God is our Father as of sired by his…[Read more]

Mike,Even though you are technically correct I see being hidden from God's face and meaning disowned; in other words cut off.  It is a way of speaking we do not use as far as I know.The Dictionary of Biblical imagery states:Quote A common idiom, to “hide one's face” (or eyes), means to refuse to notice

To all,Melchizedek(Melchisedec) has no father or mother mentioned in Scripture. His day of conception, birth, or death are not mentioned. They are all mysteries. Because of this he is always a priest and so is a likeness of the Son of God.

Mike,You are correct as it says he would be hidden from God's face.

Mike,Quote I don't have any WISHES for what the scriptures SHOULD teach. So when John said there were souls under the alter in heaven, I have no reason to disbelieve what he said.You do realize if your understanding is wrong it is because you do not believe what Scripture teaches.

Mike,Quote Flesh, blood, and bone all go together. If I say YOU are “flesh and blood” – it doesn't mean you don't have any BONE in you – just because I didn't specifically mention “bone”.Not all believe your claim. Some believe Jesus had no blood after his resurrection and I cannot not say he did as I know the power of God.

Journey,His arrival into Scripture and departure from Scripture is a mystery. We are told little of him.

Nick,Thank you.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 17 2014,05:40)Hi KW, Scripture says 1Cor 1550 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.You say”It does not say that creatures of flesh cannot inherit the new earth.  It instead says creature of flesh and blood cannot inherit the world to…[Read more]

Nick,I am not saying whether or not the man spoke of enter heaven in a body as all I require to point out the flaw in the reasoning of those who say no one could enter heaven in body is that Paul did not know.To claim Paul knew in his first letter that a human body could not enter the current heaven but forgot that fact by his second letter is an…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 17 2014,03:45)Hi KW.  You say”The body of Moses was physically caught up to heaven after Satan’s attempt to keep it on earth where its burial place would be known.”No flesh is in heavenFlesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdomNick,I see too many people claim those words say what they do not because they lack knowledge no…[Read more]

Nick,We are to test the spirit for Satan comes as an angel of light.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 17 2014,00:38)Hi KW, Jesus spoke his Father's words We cannot add to thoseNick,His people do as they see him doing for they for they follow him.As Jesus used the hidden meaning if Scripture to reveal there is a resurrection.  Not everything is clear in Scripture nor is it meant to be or God would not use parables and…[Read more]

Nick,Have you read the passage of Scripture I cited?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 17 2014,02:52)Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2014,03:37)Nick,Scripture does not address the meaning of English words.  Teachers give the gift of knowledge.  I am surprised you do not know that.Hi KW, How can man give what is of God?Nick,I was not speaking of human teaches but of the Holy Spirit.Human teachers impart certain k…[Read more]