Mike,Quote He wanted to see and touch the actual wounds from Jesus' crucifixion – in order to believe it was truly Jesus, and that he was truly raised from the dead.Some translations claim he did while most say it was the imprint, print, marks, etc. of the nails. I found one that said scars. I looked at the original language and imprint is most…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,03:04)Hi KW, Indeed the new creation is not corruptible So the tattered body of Jesus was yet of the old creationNick,You insist in saying what is not written even though you know it is not written. That is not good fruit. That is responding without considering what is right.Acts 13:34New Revised Standard Version…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,03:06)Hi KW, Stopping and thinking so that reason can rule via adjustments of the text is not the way to study scripture is it?Nick,Stopping and thing means you are quick to list and slow to speak. Scripture declares it is a good thing.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,03:06)Hi KW, Stopping and thinking so that reason can rule via adjustments of the text is not the way to study scripture is it?Nick,In reality the ability to correct paraphrase reveals the correct understanding. On the other hand not addressing the point and leveling accusations looks deceptive.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,03:05)Hi KW, And Thomas was not shown SCARS but wounds.Nick,There are some translations that translate the word to wounds but many do not. Imprint is about the closest English to the Koine Greek word. The Koine Greek word instead is used for pattern, model, imprint, etc. In no other case is it used for wound.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,03:02)Hi KW, “What you say is invention and God said his flesh and bone body nor any other part of him would see corruption any more. ” is ANY MORE added?Nick,I paraphrased it but it means the same thing. It is in Acts 13:34 and goes “And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,02:40)Hi KW, He was brought back to life in the old tent The new tent awaited himNick,Stop and think because I am sure your grasp of grammar is large enough to know scar and mark are synonyms. Print used by the AV of the KJV means even less as is means the impression, stamp, etc.John 20:25Good News Translation…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,02:40)Hi KW, He was brought back to life in the old tent The new tent awaited himNick,What you say is invention and God said his flesh and bone body nor any other part of him would see corruption any more. In other words he does not and any more. His body was already freed from corruption just as all of creation…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2014,01:00)Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2014,17:59)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,04:46)Hi KW, Jesus made plain that it was the SAME body showing them the holes still in it.Nick,There is no evidence there were any holes in his body after his resurrection. Only marks were literally mentioned.And what were those “marks” made…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,02:02)Hi KW, In what way was the uncorrupted body changed?Nick,The short answer is:2 Corinthians 5:4New English Translation (NET)4 For we groan while we are in this tent, since we are weighed down, because we do not want to be unclothed, but clothed, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2014,00:56)Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2014,16:54)Mike,Paul uses the same words to contrast the spirit not led by the Holy Spirit and the spirit let by the Holy Spirit as he did between pre-change body and the post-change body.  He spoke of the man who walked according to the flesh as the natural man and the man who walked…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,08:29)Hi kw,”Paul uses the same words to contrast the spirit not led by the Holy Spirit and the spirit let by the Holy Spirit “1 Corinthians 2:14-16Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them,…[Read more]

Nick,Yes, God told the man bearing the flesh and bone body “no more to return to corruption”.

Mike,Quote It was the same body, Kerwin.It was the same body but changed just as a plant springs from a seed so the new body arises from the old.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2014,01:10)Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2014,12:31)But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”John 2024 Now Thomas (also known as Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the oth…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,00:56)Hi KW, Would you believe if you put your fingers in the holes and your hand in his side? Or not?It was a sign to ThomasNick,It Jesus wanted me to believe that it would have been written or at least implied.  As it is he wanted me to believe he was raised from the dead in a living human body.

Mike,Quote They don't yet know WHAT they will be like, because they HAVEN'T yet seen him AS HE IS.The word phaneroó translated “made known” in some translations is not speaking about knowledge except possibly when used figuratively. Biblehub.comQuote Definition: I make clear (visible, manifest), make known.“what we will be has not yet been…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2014,00:39)Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2014,15:15)…..the sword coming out of the mouth is biblical imagery for a person using the mouth/words as a weapon.You may be right.  I also may be right.  Time will tell.Mike,I think the whole passage is biblical imagery but some such as white hair seems clearer than others which I d…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,00:34)Hi KW, So your speculations are valid?Nick,I am addressing your speculation(assumption) and pointing out my lack of knowledge to wakeup at the same time. I did state one opinion and that is that Jesus had the scar from the spear on his side. I think I also posted a similar message to you.

Wakeup,Quote What Paul try to convey is that the body on earth and the heavenly bodies are not the same and for those reason need changes if one as to go from one place to the otherI believe he means exactly what he states and then gives examples of different types of flesh. He never literally gives examples of different types of bodies though he…[Read more]